is cut off marks ka koi auchitya nahi hai. jpsc raw marks k aadhar par cut off jari kare tab baat banti hai, aisa hone par 50% se jyada passed cadidates out ho jayenge.
due to abnormal scaling ,gs aur interview ka importance hi khatm ho gaya hai.this is most important point against abnormal scaling. has this point presented in court
ye cut off marks ka list bhi dhyan se dekho ki kab banaya gaya hai...controller of exam k sign k niche date 11/12/12 hai, iska matlab saaf hai daal me kaala zaroor hai.Final result nikalne se pahle ka date kyun nahi hai?
1.Scaling after Interview. 2.marks ke moderation evaluation ke samay hona chahiye tha,naki interview ke bad. 3.Main result unscaled marks aur final scaling ke bad . 4.Main fail students ko JPSC marks kyo nahi jari kar raha hai? 5.Jpsc ne optional ke 2 papers ka combined scaling milakar kar diya,IS mamle meJPSC ne manmani karne ki seema par kar di. Ab court mein ese kaise justify karte hain ye dekhna hain.
mai to aaj bhi cancel karwane ka kosis kar raha hu lekin aap kya kar rahe hai? kuch information de raha hu
jpsc ne aant me kukand kar diya kaise?
4th jpsc ka final merit list ka cutoff marks hai…..
general———990 bc 2————-963.55 bc 1————-936 sc—————-915 st—————–881
jpsc ne interview ke 200 marks ko meaningless kar diya kaise..
lagbagh 250 student jo interview diye the agar unko interview ka 200 marks bhi de diya jaye to bhi wo final merit list me nahi aa sakte.
exmple……
st candidate me 657, 654, 661,671, marks mains me mila aur inka interview call kiya gaya ab aaplog mains ke marks me interview ka marks add kare inko 200 bhi interview me mil jaye to bhi final list me nahi aa sakte.
scaling ke karan geography me 24/400 n 392/400 anthropology me 72/400 n 395/400 lsw me 119/400 n 397/400 etc. ye sabhi interview diye aur fail bhi hogaye.
mai yaha ye batane ka kosis kar raha hu ki scaling ke karan marks ka variation itna jyada nahi hona chahiye.
again case file maine kiya hai jiska date 13/12/12 ko hai case no. wps 7050/2012 (kishor kumar chopra vs state of jharkhand) ek case aaj file kar raha hu upar jo point diye hai uspar. dono case ka advocate manoj tandon hai. lekin court me sunwaai ho tabhi justice mil payega.
thanks
ajay choudhary(9931554535) cjm
mail.. chhatrajagranmanch@gmail.com
agar kuch information dena chhate hai to mail kare.
what happened at court today ?. i had written to examination controller & chairman to review the marks , got reply as given below - after JE interview,such matters may be looked into
JPSc ko apna kaam time se karne do aue court ko apna kaam karne do. Bas wait karo ki sunwai kab hogi court me aur jpsc k upper lage allegation sabit ho pate hain ki nahin. Koi authentic news 5th jpsc k baare me ki notification aane ki sambhawna kab tak hai. Bhai Personnel ministry se bhi pata karo na kitni seats hogi 5th jpsc me.
ajay chaudhary ji...apki dukan jitni chalni thi chal chuki...ab aap yahan se pack up kijiye aur logon ko bewakooph banana choodiye....kab thak failed students ka court ke naam pe paise khakar kamate rahenge....thodi akal lagaiye aur 5th jpsc ke exam ki taiyari kijiye..agar nahin kar sakte to kuch aur kijiye...jharkhand job fair me bhi try kar sakte hain. Baki Aapki Marzi
@ Anonymous Ajay cahaudhry jaise banne mein tumhe ek janm aur lena padega,Tum jaise spineless and senseless yadi adhikari ban gaya to administration ke beda gark hai.Ajay has done very good job against rotten system,. Tumhe exam aur result ki kya samajh hai? Jpsc ne two papers ko combined kar marks diya kya ye sahi hai,?secondly scaling interview ke bad hua kya ye sahi hai?Thirdly Scaling process me optional me kisi ko 400 marks to kisi ko 24 and 75 mile hai ,kya scaling process sahi hai? Exam process me jitna time, resources lagta hai uski kimat ka pata hai tumhe? Kisi ko gali dekar koi aage nahi badhta ,balki apni himmat,sahas, aur ability and overall jo system ke galyiyo khilaph bolne aur khada hone ka madda rakhta hai wo asli hero hai.
jpsc ko reccomendation cabinet ke approval ke baad milta hai. cabinet me ye matter kis din aya bhai thoda batana. 20th ko pattern ko lekar bani committee ki baithak hai. 5th notification march ke baad ana hai dear. abhi maje karo.
@anonymous Reply as given below - after JE interview,such matters may be looked into
Chalo atleast kuch reply to aaya.. mere mail ka to avi tak nahi aaya hai.. even after je interview if they look into the issue that is a gr8 thing because irregularities itni badi hai ki koi thoda v dekhna chahe to use dikh jayega....
We must do what ever is in my hand.. rest jo v ho......
Vivek ji, aapke news ka source kitna authentic hai?Aise aapki bat sahi nikle, hum yahi chahte hain,lekin isi blog pe kuchh log march ke bad notification bne ki bat kar rahe hain, isme aapki kya raya hai?please comment &give your valuable information.
@ranjan i have mailed to chairman as well as controller and deputy controller of exam, reply was given by controller. but i dont think they are much serious since the had send the recommendation to the government. even i have not got reply of my rti
@ friend/ajay chaudhary/ self proclamied real hero: kaun adhikari banne ke layak kai woh tum jpsc jo ek constitutional body hai us par chhod do. aur problem hai to jao aur khud constitutional tarike se case lado...blog par dukan chalane aur bhik mangne se tumhe kuch milne wala nahi. Apne sath sath dusro ka bhi samay nashta kar rahe ho. Apni hypocrisy band karo..agar tumhara result aa jata to tum bhi abhi chicken phad rahe honte...abhi bhi samay hai murkha...and i reiterate...apne spine ko straight kar aur apna sense 5th jpsc me concentrate karo.
Jaldi ha....ha...ha...band ho jayegi, jab result scrap/ revised hoga aur sadak par aa jaoge.Ranjan , kumar ,chaudhry jaise logo ke samne tumsabo ki aukat kya hai ye to tumhari ghatiya mansikta se pata chalta hai. tum sabo ki ha..ha..ha..to aahh...aahhhh..aaahhh...me bafal jayegi
1.It seems that JPSC has declared mains result on the basis of unscaled marks and later after interview they scaled the marks of main exam and then declared final result on the basis of scaled marks.Because of this many students who could have got the chance of being in interview were deprived of interview..
2.UPSC follow moderation for main exam, but JPSC done scaling and inflated the marks UP TO99.25% in even humanities papers.most of the selected candidates awarded between 90-99.25 % scaled marks on other hand in same subject due to scaling candidates awarded even only 6% marks.
3. After result of main exam the process of scaling is gross violation of ART 14 &Art 16 of constitution,those failed in main exam.
4. DUE TO SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW the difference of marks between selected candidates is more then 200-300 and 500 marks in some cases,where total marks 1400. (1200 optional+gs and 200 interview).
5.JPSC has done a major mistake by combined scaling of both papers. How JPSC can scaled the marks of two paper combinedly,when you have taken exam separetly , Any commission do scaling like this? Combined scaling is also major procedural lapse,it greatly impacted the marks, if a person get higher marks in paper I ,but avarage marks in PaperII, due to this scaling he got added advantage in paperII and vice versa when paper II performance is below average .So This scaling process is errorneous. Freinds I am not joking let me explain first it by an example if any candidate got 180 marks in paper I and 100 marks in PAPER II, scenario I- he will get marks on the basis of90 % scoring and maximum limit will 200 marks In PAPER I ,but his Second paper score will be according to50% score. But in COMBINED SCALING SITUATION HE WILL GET SCALED marks in PAPER II according to 70% scoring,so he got added advantage in paper II. Senario 2 he will get marks on the basis of90 % scoring and maximum limit will 200 marks In PAPER I, but if his score 100 is below avarage then he will get marks as per downward sacling. But in COMBINED SCALING SITUATION HE WILL GET SCALED marks in PAPER II according to 70% scoring,so he got added advantage in paper II
sayad 200ke karib seat ki bat kahi gayi thi,aur notification ke date ke bare me kaha gaya tha ki jald aane wala hai,aap logon ko kuchh pata ho to update karen
@ Dipu Seats will be more then 450 but notification date is uncertain, most probably after JE interview gets over. Do u any idea that when interview is going to finish?
Aanonymouus yes you r rt.. jpsc does not seem serious to the plight of those students who suffered to arbitrary scaling of JPSC.. Recommendation send karne ka matlab to hai ki wo hamare points ko accept nahi karna chahte although wo v jante hain ki wo wrong footing par hain... aur agar ek baar ladkon ne join kar liya to ye court se v difficult ho jayega unhe remove karake deserving ko unki jagah par appoint karna if any...but hum kar kya sakte hain .. court itna slow kaam karti hai yahan.. wo stay jaldi lagana nahi chahti.. kuch log kah rahe hain ki jpsc constitutional body hai to iska ye matlab nahi hai ki wo kuch v kar sakte hain.. isi constitutional body ke former chairman kai saalon se jail me band hain.. Jo 5th ka notification ka wait kar rahe hain wo sahi hai unhe karna v chahiye aur preparation v karna chahiye.. but at the same time unhe v samajhna hoga ki ye unke saath v ho sakta hai next aatempt me.. so wo v jpsc ke is scaling ka jis method se oppose kar sakein karein.. chahe wo point behejen jinhone court me case kiya hai ya gyapan den jpsc ko ya atleast mail likhein unhe.. this is for all.. main already achhe job me hoon aur main 6 marks se finally miss kiya hoon..agar mujhe information ys co-opeerative mil v gaya to main join nahi karunga.. but still main v fight karne ki koshish kar raha hoon .. aur aap v karein kyunki ye poori tarah se galat hai and any one can be the victim..
http://www.facebook.com/manoj.tandon.129?fref=ts this is the facebook id of manoj tandon lawyer who is pleading the case.. If any one have any relevent point regarding the case pls. message him
Very true Ranjan ji, jis system me jpsc chal raha hai candidates PT to qualify kar jayenge aur agar sahi optional choose kiya to wo bhi clear ho jayega lekin interview k baad aapko jpsc k faulty scaling k bharose rahna hoga na ki apne talent par.Interview ka to koi matlab hi nahi rah gaya hai.
ranjan ji.....pls stop campaigning for your malicious design...6 no. se miss hone ki baichaini hum samajh sakte hain....apko kya lagata hai jo select hue woh sab underserving hain????? ......aap bade enthusiastic the jab apka interview call aya...congratulate karne lag gaye sabko...jpsc pe poora bharosa tha apko. aur us samay bhi pt result ka case court me chal raha tha...lekin apke kisi bhi posts me uske liye koi jagaha nahi tha....ap interview strategy pe jut gaye the..aur apna result nahi ane ke baad achanat se jpsc faulty lagne laga..badhai to dur ulta result pe hi question mark utha diya... yah to aap apna political career banana chahte hain yah apne select nahin hone se frustrate ho gaye hain...dono hi case me logon ko gumrah karna thik nahin hai.... apki baat bilkul thik hai ki aap ek achhi post par hain..shayad isiliye 5th jpsc aspirant ki apko chinta nahin hai....apka tu kuch nahin jaega par haan bechare aspirants ka samay aur career jaroor khatm ho jayega..agar politics hi karni hai to pls janata ke bich jaiye aur real issues ko uthaiye....first time in the history of jpsc fair result aya hai....jahan kisi ki bhi nahi chali...har subject, her state se log select hue hain...phir bhi apko apatti hai...mujhe lagta hai aap jaise log hi is jpsc ke functioning me aur state ke development me sabse badi badha hain. Agar injustice ka itna hi concern hai to apko bahut issues main deta hoon....pls knock the door of UPSC and try to discover its irregularities...apko samajh aa jayega ki ek constitutional body kya hoti hai.
to the all future apirants of jpsc....pls focus on your studies.....ek sawal puhiye apne aap se...kyon sirf fail candidate hi result pe apatti uthate hain...jiska mains ho gaya usne pt result par apatti uthani chhod di.....jiska final nahin hua ab woh injustice chilla rahe hain...yeh sirf self interest aur narrow politics ke liye kiya jaa raha hai...ap kripya sachet rahein aur next exam pe dhyan de.
@ Ranjan By denying the importance of cooperative and information services.....you are displaying your power hungry attitude....and for the greed of power you are playing with career of future aspirants....request you to stop this and prove your mettle in exam.
Ranjan apne job pe dhyn de... agar tum apna job acche se karoge to society k lie kuch contribute kar paoge ...agar activist banna chahte to naukri choro aur road pe akar baat karo... 5th ka form sbse pehle bharne jaoge..are bhai hosh me aao aur bakwas band karo...
Bhaiyo Ranjan ji to job me hain aur 4th jpsc ka interview bhi diya ye badi baat hai kyunki job me rahte hue time nahi milta hai preparation karne ka par aap log to abhi job me bhi nahi ho fir bhi mains nahi de paa rahe ho, isliye bakwaas mat karo.
5th jpsc ka notifiation 2012 me nahi aane wala. 4th jpsc ke cutof marks ko lekar ho halla ho raha hai police services(women)-891 marks me kaise, kyoooo?????///////
women kota me 891 marks me saletion esliye ho gaya kyoki height 5 “5″ hona jaruri hai.
891 se jayada marks lane wali rita kumari-940,kavita agrawal-963 etc ka saletion height kam hone ke karan nahi huaa hai.
agar women cat. me kisi ka 891 se jayada marks hai aur height 5″5′ hai to mujhe mail kare.
chhatrajagranmanch@gmail.com or call me 9931554535.
interview se pahle wps 7050/2012 court me file kiya hai jo ki alok singh ke court me 20/12/12 ko hai. interview ke baad wps 8377/2012 court me file huaa hai jiska date 04/01/2013 ko mil sakta hai.
ajay ji ne to karan bhi bata diya ki un 2 ladkiyo ka selection height kam hone k karan nahi hua.. ab yehi baat judge sahab se bhi sun lena.. good work ajay..
have never said that those who have succeeded are undeserving.. never u see my above comments...I have also said that it may be that those who are passed now may remain successful even after rescaling but i have objection on the way scaling has been done and value of GS and Interview has been undermined. More over combined scaling and scaling after interview and not after the mains is totally wrong even you will agree...And we are opposing that only.. Aur main information service join karunga ya co-operative nahi karunga this is my personal choice..No one should object that which post should I opt for ...Yes even in interview I wasa sked that u r in such a high paying job and then why you are coming in a job which is not so attractive and u will not get this salary even at the retirement here.....Interviewers clearly told me that these jobs are nothing in compare to IAS..But i convinced them that still I want to join these jobs and see my marks I have ended up getting decent marks in interview(126).. I do not say that info service or co-opertaive is not good but I have already my own career calculation.I will decide which setvice to chose based on my personal position, career growth and many other things including my personal wishes to serve the people. So no body should question on my priorities of services that which one I should opt for. Rahi meri job par dhyaan dene ki baat to uski chinta aap mat karo.. I am doing quiet well in what ever services I am and will keep on doing better.. Kisi ne mujhe activist banne ke liye job chhorne ki salaah di hai.. waah re advise.. kya main jisse suffer kiya hoon uske liye aawaaj nahi utha sakta...koi injustice ke liye bole to activist... Any aam people has right to spaeak against wrong doing..Ab ka delhi me gang rape hua gar main aawaaj utauon jis v madhyam se utha sakta hoon to aap kahenge ki pahle aap job chhoriye.. wah re tarika...bhagawan bachaye aise logon se.. Personal attacking to me is not the solution.. May be those who are attacking are passed students.. I have never said anything against passed students..I really admire them and accept that rt now they are successful one.. But I have opposed the way scaling has been done.. You just fight against the wrong doings done by JPSC as it can happen to any one tomorrow..
@skumar Yes I have sent the message highlighting all the points raised by you and others to manoj tandon.. If you have new points p,ls. messsage it to him..
Kuch log mujhe mains me metttle prove karne ki dvice de rahe hain...Mian corporate sector me job karte hue v math optionals se pt aur mains diya hoon.. Aap me se kitne ki himmat hai maths lene ki..sirf 13 bachhe hi math se mains diye the..This is not to demean personal from pther subject.. I respect all subjects..
interview se pahle wps 7050/2012 court me file kiya hai jo ki alok singh ke court me 20/12/12 ko hai. interview ke baad wps 8377/2012 court me file huaa hai jiska date 04/01/2013 ko mil sakta hai
ye to post ka preference dene wale ki galti hai....height kam aur police adm , aisa kaise ho sakta hai baki services me cut off bhi jyada hai fir job kahan se milegi.In dono case me JPSC sahi hai.
i think the candidates who had written mains exam in English are at disadvantage as per trend of marks, since the mains answer sheet had no option to indicate the language used
i feel like that since in both of my optionals i have answered with same accuracy yet i got 390 in one and 190 in another . also with more errors and less attempt i got more marks in gs paper 1 since it was fact based than in paper 2 which was analytical
bhaiya ranjan ji.......who forced you to opt maths as an optional...you chose it becuase of your confort with the subject.......if you consider opting math is a courageous step then either you are agains doing self pulicity or you are a fool as you could easily get through with an easier optional...
Mr Ranjan...pls don't try to showcase your achievement despite remaining in job...there are many successful candidates in the list whose sacrifices and struggle is beyond your imagination. People with wife and kids have sold their property, did full time jobs and got through in adminstrative eservices in the exam....again pls stop playing politics over a non-issue.
Impressive lecture but still you are not going to befool anyone...you are raising the issue coz you could not get through...We would be more glad if you protest against the rape crime......but you are showing your activism because you see a chance to get in this exam.......thing is not going to happen at any cost....take it for sure.
Here some people justifying the wrong deeds of JPSC,They forget GALAT GALAT hota hain.Kisi main dum hai to JPSC ke dwara liye gaye decision ko defend point wise kare, bekar ki illogical bato ka koi fayda nahi. 1.SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW kaise sahi hai koi justfy kar baatye. 2.Kya Interview ke bad scaling ke bajay main ke result ke pahle scaling nahi karna ,JPSC ka galt decicision nahi hai. 3.Scaling me kisi ko 99.5% aur kisi 6% marks ,itna huge difference sahi hai. 4.Two optional papers ka combined marks kaise diya ja skta hai? JPSC ka combined scaling decision ka sahi hai?
No more reply to personal comments ... We are here to raise the wrongdoings done by jpsc an we will keep on doing it.. Any one who has issue with it pls. ignore this post....
I can understand the frustration of those who have passed due to wrong doings of jps and are fearful that they might have to be dropped out...My empathies are with them.. But wrong is wrong... No personal comment will be entertained as itsolves no purpose and just deviates from main points raised by us..These are points raisd by us..If any one can justify jpsc on these points are free to do it but do it logically-- 1.GS n interview me highest marks 70% ke range me hai, gs me to aur v kam hai.. jabki optional me 100% ke range me.. isse gs aur interview ka importance hi khatm ho gaya..Baki paper me v highest marks 70% ke around hona chahiye tha. Suppose kijiye kisi student ko kisi paper me scaling ke baad 398 hai aur kisi ko 298 to difference 100 marks ka ho gaya Yahi agar highest 70% yani ki 280 diya jata to doosre student ko jise ki avi 298 mila hai use 298/398*280=209 milta usi proportion me. to uska difference ghatkar sirf 71 marks rah jata jo ki wo gs aur interview se compensate kar sakta tha.. ye bahut important point hai.. highest post scaled marks 398-399 dene ke chalte students ke optional marks me difference kafi jyada ho gaya hai aur GS n interview ka important hi khtam hogaya.. agar optionals me inflate kar 400 karna tha to interview and gs me v usi ratio me marks barhana chhaiye tha wahan v highest 200 milna chhaiye ha per paper.. ya optionals ka highest reduce kar 70% ke range me lana chahiye.. Upsc follows moderation in mains and highest marks in optionas is always in the range of 70 like that of GS and interview.. 2.. It seems that JPSC has declared mains result on the basis of unscaled marks and later after interview they scaled the marks of main exam and then declared final result on the basis of scaled marks.Because of this many students who could have got the chance of being in interview were deprived of interview..
3.UPSC follow moderation for main exam, but JPSC done scaling and inflated the marks UP TO99.25% in even humanities papers.most of the selected candidates awarded between 90-99.25 % scaled marks on other hand in same subject due to scaling candidates awarded even only 6% marks.
4. After result of main exam the process of scaling is gross violation of ART 14 &Art 16 of constitution,those failed in main exam.
5. DUE TO SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW the difference of marks between selected candidates is more then 200-300 and 500 marks in some cases,where total marks 1400. (1200 optional+gs and 200 interview).
6.JPSC has done a major mistake by combined scaling of both papers. How JPSC can scaled the marks of two paper combinedly,when you have taken exam separetly , Any commission do scaling like this? Combined scaling is also major procedural lapse,it greatly impacted the marks, if a person get higher marks in paper I ,but avarage marks in PaperII, due to this scaling he got added advantage in paperII and vice versa when paper II performance is below average .So This scaling process is errorneous. Freinds I am not joking let me explain first it by an example if any candidate got 180 marks in paper I and 100 marks in PAPER II, scenario I- he will get marks on the basis of90 % scoring and maximum limit will 200 marks In PAPER I ,but his Second paper score will be according to50% score. But in COMBINED SCALING SITUATION HE WILL GET SCALED marks in PAPER II according to 70% scoring,so he got added advantage in paper II. Senario 2 he will get marks on the basis of90 % scoring and maximum limit will 200 marks In PAPER I, but if his score 100 is below avarage then he will get marks as per downward sacling. But in COMBINED SCALING SITUATION HE WILL GET SCALED marks in PAPER II according to 70% scoring,so he got added advantage in paper II 7.scaling me average marks aur deviation ka sue kiya gaya hai .Ab chunki jo v ladke mains qualify kiye hain unka avg marks jyada hai aur deviation v kam hai.. jiske chalte topper ko to thik marks mil 397 ke range me but jis kisi ko v avg se thoda v kam marks tha uska scaled marks kafi kam ho gaya i mean 210-220 ke range me.. Yahi agar total 2200 students par scaling ki jati to avg marks per subject kam hota as usme bahut ladke ke kam marks v honge tavi wo raw marks me qualify nahi kiye as well as deviation jyada hota.. so toppers ko to avi v 397 mailte but jinko 210-220 mile hain avi unhe 270-280 ke aas paas milta aur wo v shayad final qualify karte..
Agar aap jpsc ke point ko justify kar sakte hain to pls. point by point karein.. u r most welcome.... no personal things..
ha ha ha... sahi hai.. to kyun bata rahe the ki maths lekar tumne bahot mahan kaam kiya? kisne tumse tumhare optionals puche? kisne tumhare interview k no puche? self proclaimed hero mat bano...
I had answered my prsonal questions as they were raised by people in earlier posts..I still cud hv answered those points again raised by few people but Bythen I realised that these things are taking us away from the main points..So no more personal querry will be entertained.. If u hv answer of these points pls.. reply.. I am 2day rewriting these points to jpsc chair,man for their reply..
Buddy again u got it wrong.. tumhe hamara point samajh nahi aaya shayad.. we r not against scaling. I am highly n favour of scaling but ina way to moderate it as it is done by upsc.. mains ke time me hona chahiye tha.. combined nahi hona chahiye.. Maximum marks 70% ke range me hona chahiye jaise kiupsc me hota hai.. hope u get it.. yes agar ye sab nahi hota hai to main nahi dunga 5th jpsc.. isi ke liye chairman ko mail likh raha hoon...
bahot acche... 4th me select nahi hue aur 5th to nahi dena hai.. phir yaha bakwas band karo aur jake apne job pe dhyn do... behave like a responsible citizen..
bhaiya ranjan ji....do u really think we have time to read your lengthy shit.....in the name of justice don't waste time of others and do injustice to them.....you probably have lost your job and you have spare times to waste...can really help you fetch some as you seem to be talented...if interested pls upload your profile...but be precise.
Ranjanji I am totally agree with U Here some people justifying the wrong deeds of JPSC,They forget GALAT GALAT hota hain.Kisi main dum hai to JPSC ke dwara liye gaye decision ko defend point wise kare, bekar ki illogical bato ka koi fayda nahi. 1.SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW kaise sahi hai koi justfy kar baatye. 2.Kya Interview ke bad scaling ke bajay main ke result ke pahle scaling nahi karna ,JPSC ka galt decicision nahi hai. 3.Scaling me kisi ko 99.5% aur kisi 6% marks ,itna huge difference sahi hai. 4.Two optional papers ka combined marks kaise diya ja skta hai? JPSC ka combined scaling decision ka sahi hai? Pass walo ki bechaini badh rahi hai kyoki unheb pata hai ki galat process me unki lottery lag gayi aur mamla court gaya to jindgi jhant ho jAYEGI.WO APNA FRUSTATION NIKALNE KI KOSHISH KAR RAHE HAIN. Ye dead sure baat hain ki Jis naukri ka khwab dekh rahe hai wo to inke hatho se gayi.
I have said before that no reply to personal attack.. If u have some points to defend jpsc logically give it or pls. do not post on the reply of our posts..In that case in stead of writing bull shits plese ignore our posts..Those who haave common ground with us only they pls. reply..
arre bhaiya kahe tumlog sari hui bdo kinaukrikeliye aapas me ladai kar rahe ho.. prabhat khbar prho daily ek bdo mr khta hi kvi prmukh se kvi mukhiya se kvi apne clerk se....burbk ho tumlog v...
Logon ke pt ke exam me wrong scaling ko lekr fight karne se bhale hi 4th me kuch nhi hua but 5th me to optional khtm ho gya..usi trh se galat mains scaling se fight karne pr 5th me to fir scling hogi kam se kam..
highcourt me pahli sunwai 9th jan ko. roll no 7100301 date of birth 02/02/1974 roll no 7100902 date of birth 27/10/1974 iss tarah ke kam se kam 50 example court me diye gaye hai jaha candidates ko interview me 200 bhi dene par wo cut-off ke pass nahi pahuch sakte. pata nahi iss exam ka kya hasr hoga!!!!!!!!!!
pass log adhik khush na ho. paise na udaye kahi b yah result hi na udd jay. iss tarah ke 50 se adhik example ko court kaise ignore karegi!!!!!!
Vivek JI court me combined scaling ka matter bhi judwa dijiye ye pass wale jhant ho jayenge. Arbirtary tarike se marks award karna jpsc ke liye fassi ban jayega. combined scaling na hone se kai log jinhe 380+ marks mile hai wo sab bahar honge. second point after interview scaling ka process illegal hai,kyoki isse main fail hone wale ka FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS Right to equal opportunity ka violation hua hai. EN DONO POINT PAR HI RESULT SCRAP HO JAYEGA. Yaha kuch wale pass log bechain ho kar logo ka attention divert karna chah rahe hai, UNHE RANJAN aur MR Anonymous KE sawal ka jwab nahi mil raha hain unhe dar hai ki inki baate court ke samne aayi to result gaya.FOLLOWING Points important hai ise supplementry dal kar petition me ye matter dalwa dijiye result ko lekar khushiya manane wale log matam manayenge:- 1.SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW kaise sahi hai koi justfy kar baatye. 2.Kya Interview ke bad scaling ke bajay main ke result ke pahle scaling nahi karna ,JPSC ka galt decicision nahi hai. 3.Scaling me kisi ko 99.5% aur kisi 6% marks ,itna huge difference sahi hai. 4.Two optional papers ka combined marks kaise diya ja skta hai? JPSC ka combined scaling decision ka sahi hai?
es tarah ke kafi candidate hai jinko interview me maximum 200 marks bhi de diya jaye to bhi ye paas nahi kar sakte. aaplogo me jinka bhi rank 450 se jyada hai wo apna roll no. aur d.o.b. blog par de ya mail kare at chhatrajagranmanch@gmail.com par ya call kare 9931554535. kyoki lagbhag 200 candidate aise hai jinko interview me maximum marks bhi diya jaye to bhi fail hai. aaj case no. wps-7441/2012 ki sunbaaee justice alok sing ke court me huee, alok singh ne kaha hai k agar 100 se jayda candidate ka interview agar meaningless hai to 4th jpsc interview cancel hoga. mujhe counter file karna hai esliye aaplog help kare. thanks (ajay choudhary)
es tarah ke kafi candidate hai jinko interview me maximum 200 marks bhi de diya jaye to bhi ye paas nahi kar sakte. aaplogo me jinka bhi rank 450 se jyada hai wo apna roll no. aur d.o.b. blog par de ya mail kare at chhatrajagranmanch@gmail.com par ya call kare 9931554535. kyoki lagbhag 200 candidate aise hai jinko interview me maximum marks bhi diya jaye to bhi fail hai. aaj case no. wps-7441/2012 ki sunbaaee justice alok sing ke court me huee, alok singh ne kaha hai k agar 100 se jayda candidate ka interview agar meaningless hai to 4th jpsc interview cancel hoga. mujhe counter file karna hai esliye aaplog help kare. thanks (ajay choudhary)
Those who are active on this forum and know people in rank access of 450 pls. send their rollno and date of birth.. we know such roll nos but we do not have access of their dob.. JPSC has played game by putting dob...
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I have put info required by ajay chaudhary in http://statecommission.blogspot.in/2012/08/bpsc-interview-53rrd-55th-combined.html and http://www.facebook.com/groups/bpscinterview/ for their help.. If u people know abt any such forum pls. put their also..
I would like add some points please look in to it 1.The pattern marks clearly indicates that JPSC has done scaling only after the result of main exam ,the result of main declared on the basis of unscaled marks, so it clearly violation of fundamental rights of equal opportunity,Art 14 & 16 of those appeared in main exam and failed in main exam, because merit list prepare on the basis of marks of main and interview. There is very much possibility that if scaling done during main exam many candidates appeared in interview they were not eligible and those are out may eligible for appearing in interview.So scaling process is after result of main exam is illegal. 2.JPSC has scaled the marks of combinedly of two papers, scheme of exam clearly stated that TWO separate papers of 200 marks each ,so separate evaluation is must .But JPSC has changed the rules between the game and awarded the scaled marks by clubbing the marks of both papers.By clubbing the both papers raw /unscaled marks and awarding the scaled marks make scaling process erroneous because it extend undue benefit to candidates who scored good in one paper and not good score in second paper and loss to candidates who performed average in both papers.SCALING must be paper wise instead of by clubbing of both papers,so process of scaling is illegal and faulty.No commission scaled or moderate the marks by clubbing of two papers marks. combined scaling is also major procedural lapse,it greatly impacted the marks, if a person get higher marks in paper I ,but avarage marks in PaperII, due to this scaling he got added advantage in paperII and vice versa when paper II performance is below average .So This scaling process is erroneous. Freinds I am not joking let me explain first it by an example if any candidate got 180 marks in paper I and 100 marks in PAPER II, scenario I- he will get marks on the basis of90 % scoring and maximum limit will 200 marks In PAPER I ,but his Second paper score will be according to50% score. But in COMBINED SCALING SITUATION HE WILL GET SCALED marks in PAPER II according to 70% scoring,so he got added advantage in paper II. Senario 2 he will get marks on the basis of90 % scoring and maximum limit will 200 marks In PAPER I, but if his score 100 is below avarage then he will get marks as per downward sacling. But in COMBINED SCALING SITUATION HE WILL GET SCALED marks in PAPER II according to 70% scoring,so he got added advantage in paper II
3.UPSC follow moderation for main exam, but JPSC done scaling and inflated the marks UP TO99.25% in even humanities papers.most of the selected candidates awarded between 90-99.25 % scaled marks on other hand in same subject due to scaling candidates awarded even only 6% marks.such variation clearly indicate that scaling method /formula is illogical and erroneous.
4.DUE TO SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW the difference of marks in optional papers between selected candidates is more then 200-300 marks in some cases,where total marks 800.However it is important to mention that after such big difference of marks in main how make possible to them eligible for interview. SO definitely Scaling done after INTERVIEW and after interview scaling of MAIN EXAMS marks make scaling process illegal and arbitrary.
I am Thankful to you all for making such brilliant effort against irregularities of JPSC and my best wishes with you all.
@skumar, ranjan and others.. I have talked to ajay chaudhary.. wo kuch aisa judgement maang rahe hain jisme ki ye likha ho ki upsc moderation karti hai na ki scaling aur marks ko 99% inflate nahi karti...Agar aapke paas kuch ho to is forum par share karein ya chhatra jagran manch ko mail krein..
SEE Other Important FAQs OF UPSC states as below process of moderation 1.After the written examination, on what criterion is the answer books sent for evaluation? Is it on Roll no. basis or based on centre of examination? That is, will a particular examiner/set of examiners get to evaluate answer books only of a particular center or a particular group of Roll nos.?
Mixing of the answer books received from different venues is done before sending them for evaluation. Computer-based randomized fictitious code no. is given to each answer-book before evaluation.
2Are answer books segregated/sorted based on community of the candidate?
This is not done at any stage of the evaluation process.
3Is it likely that my evaluated performance suffers because my answer books were evaluated by a 'strict' examiner, while another candidate benefits as his answer books were evaluated by a 'liberal' examiner?
The Paper Setter, who is an eminent person in his field, normally acts as the Head Examiner, and wherever the number of candidates in a particular subject is very large, the Commission appoints Additional Examiners for valuation of answer books. To achieve uniformity in valuation, where more than one Examiner is involved, the Commission arranges a meeting of the Head Examiner with the Additional Examiners after the Examination is over. At this stage, they discuss thoroughly the question paper, the appropriate answers and decide the standard of evaluation. To further bring about uniformity of assessment inter se the Examiners, the following procedure is undertaken: The Head Examiner conducts a sample survey of answer books of each Additional Examiner to verify whether the uniform standards of evaluation evolved in the meeting of Examiners have actually been followed. Depending on the standard adopted by the Additional Examiner, the Head Examiner may confirm the awards without any change if the Examiner has correctly followed the standard decided upon, or may carry out upward / downward moderation as considered necessary to ensure maximum possible degree of uniformity in the evaluation process. Therefore, the aspect of inter examiner variation in standards of evaluation in a Paper affecting candidates' performance is taken care of adequately.
Refer to this case in Delhi High Court. Prashant Ramesh Chakkarwar vs Union Public Service Commission & … on 5 October, 2010. 26. From a cumulative reading ofI Moderation and scaling of marks are two different techniques used by examining authorities for achieving common standard of assessment of marks. II UPSC does not apply the method of scaling of marks in evaluating the answer-sheets of the candidates pertaining to Civil Services (Main) Examination and confines the application of the said method in evaluation of answer-sheets of the candidates pertaining to Civil Services (Preliminary) Examination. III The method of moderation of marks propounded by Supreme Court in Sanjay Singh‟s case (supra) is similar to the W.P.(C) No.6586/2010 & Conn. Matters Page 38 of 43 one applied by UPSC in evaluating the answer-sheets of the candidates pertaining to Civil Services (Main) Examination. IV The method of moderation of marks applied by UPSC in evaluating the answer-sheets of the candidates pertaining to Civil Services (Main) Examination has been approved by a learned Single Judge and a Division Bench of this Court. Moderation technique by UPSC 1 16. Moderation is applied by UPSC to achieve uniformity in standards of evaluation of descriptive answer books where a number of examiners are involved. The problem of uniformity of standards becomes more complex when viewed against the background that candidates in Civil Services (Main) Examination have the option of answering the papers, besides English, in any one of the eighteen languages specified in the Eighth Schedule of the Constitution. 17. As far as connventional/descriptive type of examinations are concerned, the question papers are set up by experts duly approved by the Commission for each subject. The paper setter acts as the Head Examiner. 18. When conventional papers are set, the answers have to be of descriptive type by the very nature of questions, and such answers are evaluated by a W.P.(C) No.6586/2010 & Conn. Matters Page 12 of 43 number of examiners, depending upon the number of candidates. These examiners are called Additional Examiners and work under the Head Examiner for each subject. 19. The Commission have devised a procedure of moderation to ensure equitable treatment to all candidates and to judge them on merit by reducing the "Examination variability" to the extent possible. Moderation Technique- 2 20. The experts who set the question papers for each subject, act as Head-Examiner for the evaluation of the answer-books of that subject/paper. Whenever the number of candidates is very large in a particular subject, the Commission appoints Additional Examiners from amongst subject experts. Each Additional Examiner evaluates approximately 250 to 300 answer books. To achieve uniformity in valuation, where more than one examiner are involved, the UPSC arrange for a meeting of the Head Examiner with his additional examiners for each subject soon after the examination is over. At this stage, they thoroughly discuss the question paper and the appropriate answers. They also carry out a sample valuation of answer books and this is reviewed by the Head Examiner and variations in marking, if any, are further discussed. After the discussion is over and the standard of evaluation of Answer Scripts has been decided upon, the examiners disperse and complete the valuation of answer books according to a given time schedule. 21. This exercise alone is not enough to bring about uniformity of assessment since, in the process of valuation, the examiners tend to deviate from the standards laid down by Head Examiner and expected to be followed. The UPSC therefore, apply further checks to ensure uniformity in evaluation of answer scripts.rd or downward moderation according to the degree of leniency or strictness in marking. The awards given by the Head Examiner of these revalued 20 answer books are accepted as final. Check the complete Judgement. http://www.indiankanoon.org/doc/1889873/
चौथे सिविल सेवा परीक्षा मामले में रखा पक्ष रांची त्न चतुर्थ सिविल सेवा परीक्षा पर रोक लगाने के लिए दायर याचिका पर बुधवार को झारखंड हाईकोर्ट में सुनवाई हुई। इस दौरान जेपीएससी की ओर से शपथ पत्र दायर कर याचिका में लगाए गए सभी आरोप खारिज कर दिए गए। इसमें कहा गया है कि सभी विषयों को समान करने के लिए स्केलिंग सिस्टम लागू है, ताकि किसी खास विषय के अभ्यर्थी को विशेष लाभ नहीं मिले। भोपाल (मध्यप्रदेश) में यह पद्धति काफी पहले से लागू है। इस पर याचिकाकर्ता मनोज कुमार व अन्य ने जवाब दायर करने के लिए समय मांगा। जस्टिस आलोक सिंह की अदालत ने आग्रह स्वीकार करते हुए सुनवाई तीन हफ्ते के लिए स्थगित कर दी। याचिका में चतुर्थ सिविल सेवा परीक्षा में अनियमितता बरतने का आरोप है
UPSC in an affidivit filed before Supreme court has accepted that it implements scaling system at preliminary examination level while statastical moderation method at mains level. There is no scaling system at final stage i.e. interview. Althogh UPSC claims that it follows stastical moderation at mains level but statastical moderation is nothing but an euphemism for scaling method. According to John Wilmut and Jennifer Tuson author of book, "statistical moderation of Teacher Assessments" elaborates that scaling is a component of statistical moderation. Thus it invalidates UPSC's argument that it doesnot folow system of scaling at mains level. Statistical moderation or scaling system followed by UPSC is flawed. Noted statisticians, Natarajan and Gunakesan in their much recognised book, "Scaling Techniques" cautions that scaling techniques should only be introduced wherever circumstsnces permit. Thus according to them this technique is practicable only in a major examination covering more than 33,000 candidates. But UPSC has seem to have ignored this as it has implemented the system for mains examination where just 7000 to 8000 candidates appear. Thus the system doesnot follow the basic criterion require to adopt scaling system. This makes thae adoption of scaing system by UPSC erroneous. Further UPSC in the affidivit accepts that it follows the system of randomising samples and takes 20 papers at random as samples to be applied to their scaling system so as to reduce inter examiner variation. But Natarajan and Gunakesan suggest that in order to implement scaling technique at least 25 papers and not 20 papers should be drawn. Thus from above two inconsistencies it appears that UPSC ignores even the basic requirement to implement scaling system. This puts a question mark over the efficacy and credibility of its scaling system. http://tsaindia.blogspot.in/2010/10/scalingmoderation-system-of-upsc-is.html
@Ranjan,Skumar,ajay choudhari kya ye authentic news hai ki high court ne aadesh diya hai ki PT ke answer key fir se zari kiya jaay? Iska matlab fir re-revised pt ka niklega?
HERE TWO VERY MAJOR MISTAKE MUST be emphasised in court with other points 1.SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW IS ILLEGAL PROCESS. 2.CLUBBING OF TWO PAPERS MARKs and thereafter COMBINED SCALED SCORE IS ERRONEOUS.
dear friends aaj case no, wps 7050/12 ki sunbaaee justice alok sing ke court me huee. alok sing ne kaha ki 2 weeks ke andar pt exam ka model ans. aur marks sheet jpsc jari kare.
model ans aur marks sheet jari hone ke baad kya hoga aaplog jante hai.
jpsc PT me bhi phans gaya aur mains+ interview (scaling) me bhi phans gaya. Ab kya hoga? jinka finally selection hua unka to heart attack ho jayega....mila hua job haath se nikal jayga, ye Jungal public service commission hai bhai.
pass wale bhaiyo ke sath sympaty hai but ek bar issue settele hona jaruri hai.following issues me bhi JPSC mein jarur phasegi 1.SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW IS ILLEGAL PROCESS. 2.CLUBBING OF TWO PAPERS MARKs and thereafter COMBINED SCALED SCORE IS ERRONEOUS
so finally judiciary is in action..though late..i was hoping from that very time when jpsc intentionally didnt released the pt key for the third time..i gave mains ..then interview and finally not selected ..i personaly belived that this time intention of jpsc was to take fair exam..and it tried very well..i am not finally selected and i belive i got poor marks in one paper and i accept my bad performance in that paper for me not being in list of selected candidates.but i also belive that jpsc in trying to be transparent and fair lost it altogether at that very point when it didnt released the final pt key.and justice was denied to all by hon jharkhand high court before mains and court allowed jpsc to conduct exam.i dnt regret for me not be in list of selected..may the best player win..but still I believe justice was denied during pt only..though i dnt belive that anything will happen but hope court will set some example and show jpsc some way how to take transparent ,fair and efficient exam.
Good decision by court. Be ready for re-re-revised pt result. Final me failed fir se mains ki taiyari me jut jaye. Passed bhi padhai par dhyan de to behtar baki unki marji.
phir khush ho gaye......jakar pls padhai karo...nahin to 5th jpsc me bhi aise baith kar khushi aur gum me phanse rahoge...... No one is playing with your career except yourself... deserving student are getting and will keep getting their position...nothing is going to happen...foucs on your studies else...you will keep blaming others.
sach poochhiye to ab kuchh nahi hone wala hai kyonki ab bahut der ho chuki hai, ab to joining hi na kahi kara de government fir ham log kuchh bhi nahi kar payenge...
Iss bhram me na rahe ki ab kuchh nahi ho sakta. Kal court me advocate general ki bolti band ho gai thi. Joining bhi hone ke ab chances kam hai. Ho bhi jay to court ke hammer ki chot se sari divar dhhah jaygi. Der se hi sahi nyay jarur milega.
bhram me to ap ji rahen hain...abhi tak....padhani nahi karne ka naya bahana hai....pehli baat koyi injustice hui hi nahi hai...first time itna quick aur fair result hai...lekin jharkhand tumhare rahte hamesh late hi rahega...aur jahan tak court ke hammer ki baat hai...supreme court ne 2nd jpsc ka jo nyaya kiya hai...woh tumhare samne hai..phir bhi tumhari ankh nahi khulti...rote hi rahoge beta.....meri salah mano apne hammer ko apne sar pe maro....kuch screw tight ho jayega aur padhne me man lagega.
we will fight till last blood,we will succeed in our mission.jai ho high court.ab hi jum sab ki jong nahi hua hai.2nd walo ko sarkar ki maharanwani hai,usme bare hi vip ke sons aur dauther the.
Agar koi 2nd jpsc ka support kar raha hai to samazh sakte ho ki ye kis mentality ka hai. Bhai Dilip prasad, Gopal singh ko bhi jail se bahar nikal unke saath bhi anyay ho raha hai.
2nd jpsc ka pahla candidate tha main, interview Gopal singh k board me tha, muzhse interview k end me 13 lac khud Gopal singh ne demand kiya tha aur kaha ki DSP pakka milega. (Anil)
haan anil ji.. u r rt.. mentality dekhiye in is baar ke paas ladkon ki ... wo 2nd jpsc ko justify kara rahe hain..isse andaja chalta hai ki ye kis tarah se paas hue honge is baar v..koi nhi 15 din me sab fir se mains ki taiyaari.. kai ek to revised pt ke result me v fail honge jo avi jpsc ke galat tarike ka use kar pass hokar ke itra rahe the aur ab in chutiy** ki fat rahi hai.. behen ke takke..
aaj court me case no. wps 5860/11 aur wpc 2487/12 ki hearing justice alok sing ke court me huee.
jpsc es case ko dispose karne ke liye jor laga rahi thi.
justice alok sing ne kaha ki 5860 ka pray hai. pt exam cancel, esliye 2 week ke baad es case ki sunbaaee hogi.
es case me pt exam me garwari ka draft hai agar ye case 4/1/13 ko dispose huaa matlab pt cancel. aur pt cancel matlab mains,interview and final 219 bhi gaya.
thanks
aaplog case no. wps 7441/12 ka jawab mujhe dena hai usme help kare 7441 ka date hai 9/1/13.
ajay ji my point of contention is first of all if jpsc can give pt answer key for two time then ..why it can not give it for third time ..if it want to be tranparent ..aur agar do baar diya hai to tesri baar dene mein kya aapati hai..it itself shows its malafide intention.i m from law subject and had 89 correct answer ..but finally on basis of 2nd key i got 72 ..it means 3rd key jo jpsc ne nahi diya ..usme bhi garbari hoga..
@kumar, Bilkul ho sakta hai ki answer key hi galti se bhari padi ho aur ussi basis par PT ka result nikla ho, maine to interview bhi diya tha. sab k sath justice hona chahiye.
Yaar aap log mudde ki baat kare,AJAY JI After interview SCALING GALAT HAI iss mudde ko jarur uthaye, two papers ka marks clubbing kar Combined scaling galat hai.
Ant me yahi hoga ki jpsc ko mains k raw marks+interview k marks ko add karke fir se final result nikalna pade. ye to pakka hai ki court is result ko cancel karega.
Ranchi, Dec, 18: Jharkhand Public Service Commission (JPSC) 4th Civil Services result once again came under controversy as the candidates who miss the final tally filed the writ petition against result in Jharkhand High court.
Aggrieved candidates had filed two WPS 7050/2012 in the court of Justice Alok Singh which is scheduled for hearing on December 20.Another WPS 8377/2012 was also filed in the court whose date is yet to be given.
Apart from the above case several other cases related to the PT examination are also under progress but due to heavy load of cases in the court the procedure is very slow.
At the same time JPSC is also planning to publish the notification for the 5th civil services examination in coming week.
The action of JPSC to not extend single vacancy in the 4th civil service examination despite of transport department request to appoint RTO itself suggest that JPSC has some doubt regarding the fate of 4th JPSC recruitment drive which was under the controversy since its notification as several cases are filed in Jharkhand High Court.
Given the condition JPSC is planning to conduct 5th Civil Service examination carefully to tame any controversy one can expect that commission will play fair after learning from its previous exercise.
Ranchi, Dec, 20: Jharkhand Public Service Commission (JPSC) seems to have trapped in its own web as Jharkhand High Court directs the commission to release the marks sheet and model answer key for the candidates who appeared in the 4th Civil services preliminary Examination in two weeks.
Justice Alok Singh while hearing the WPS 7050/12 directed the JPSC to do so, earlier candidates alleged JPSC for conducting the mains examination based on the wrong answer key.
JPSC has already finalized the recruitment process and sent their recommendation to the government.
Its final result had also challenged by the group of student who alleged about the implementation of faulty scaling system.
HUMBLE APPEAL- All the candidate and those just person who thinks injustice has been done to those deserving candidate meet moharabadi maidan at 11 am tomorrow for the shake of justice.
C.B.I., मेद्या घोटालें के कुछ केसों में अपनी Status Report झारखड हार्इ कोर्ट में सौंप चुकी हैं लेकिन यें सारी रिपोर्ट सील है अभी तक कोर्ट ने इन्हें देखा नही हैं क्योकि 2nd jpsc के सभी candidate C.B.I. जॉच बंद कराने के लिए सुप्रीम कोर्ट चले गए है और उनके मामलें की सुनवार्इ जनवरी मे होगी।
Hon'ble high courts order IN THE HIGH COURT OF JHARKHAND AT RANCHI W.P.(S) No. 7050 of 2012 Kishor Kumar Chopra ..... Petitioner Versus 1. The State of Jharkhand through the Principal Secretary 2. The Jharkhand Public Service Commission, Ranchi 3. The Secretary, Jharkhand Public Service Commission, Ranchi …. Respondents CORAM: HON’BLE MR. JUSTICE ALOK SINGH For the Petitioner : Mr. Manoj Tandon, Advocate For the Respondent Nos.2 & 3 : Mr. Anil Kumar Sinha, Sr. Advocate Mr. Sanjay Piprawal, Advocate ----- 02 /20.12.2012 Present writ petition has been filed seeking following relief:- “To direct the Jharkhand Public Service Commission (Respondents No.2 and 3) to publish the model answers and make available the mark sheets of the candidates pursuant to result of preliminary tests (P.T.) for which the result was published finally on 3/2/2012 in respect of 4th Combined Civil Services Preliminary Examination, conducted by Respondents 2 and 3.” Mr. Sinha, learned senior Advocate as well as Mr. Sanjay Piprawal, learned counsel appearing for the Respondent Nos.2 and 3, on the instruction of Respondent Nos.2 and 3, submits that model answers and marks obtained by the candidates in the preliminary test of 4th Combined Civil Services Preliminary Examination, pursuant to Advertisement No.07 of 2010 shall be made available on the Web site/Net within two weeks positively. Mr. Tandon, learned counsel for the petitioner submits that let the present writ petition be disposed of in the light of the statement made by learned counsel for the Respondents. Order accordingly. (Alok Singh, J.) R.
tab tak hum logon ko humme se pratyek ko atleast ek roll no aisa pata kar ke dena parega jimka inter\view me 200 marks milne ke baad v selection nahi hota.... Bahut se SC ST ke ladke jinka final list me roll no nahi hai but interview ke liye tha, hamme se pratyek ladke ko ek roll no aisa pakad kar arbitrary DOB lekar try karna chahiye .. Aur jpsc ke marks wale site par roll no aur different DOB daalkar dekhna chahiye..thoda mehnat ka kaam hai.. but agar hamme se ek v ek roll no ke liye kar deta hai to 100 aise ladske hamein mil jayenge.. 50 to already mil hi gaye hain.. un 50 ka roll no jo upar ajay ne diya hai use include nahi karna hai search mein.. sab pls. ek roll no select karein aur yahan par post karein jab khali baithen ho to try karein with different DOB.. at most 1000 retry karna parega. but will help in d case tremedously...
BC 2 category me main qualify ladko ke bhi marks me more than 200ka difference hai.out of 44 me atleast 20 students ka marks difference 200 hai.TRY kare frnds.
BC 1 me bhi bahut difference en cat me check kare.
what is the cut off in percentage ?
ReplyDeleteu can calculate out of 1400 na??
ReplyDeleteis cut off marks ka koi auchitya nahi hai. jpsc raw marks k aadhar par cut off jari kare tab baat banti hai, aisa hone par 50% se jyada passed cadidates out ho jayenge.
ReplyDeletejpsc ne farziwada karne ka naya tarika banaya scalling karke 75% farzi select huye hai hame high court jana hoga
ReplyDeletecase high court me file ho chuka hai boss.
ReplyDeletedue to abnormal scaling ,gs aur interview ka importance hi khatm ho gaya hai.this is most important point against abnormal scaling. has this point presented in court
ReplyDeleteye cut off marks ka list bhi dhyan se dekho ki kab banaya gaya hai...controller of exam k sign k niche date 11/12/12 hai, iska matlab saaf hai daal me kaala zaroor hai.Final result nikalne se pahle ka date kyun nahi hai?
ReplyDelete1.Scaling after Interview.
ReplyDelete2.marks ke moderation evaluation ke samay hona chahiye tha,naki interview ke bad.
3.Main result unscaled marks aur final scaling ke bad .
4.Main fail students ko JPSC marks kyo nahi jari kar raha hai?
5.Jpsc ne optional ke 2 papers ka combined scaling milakar kar diya,IS mamle meJPSC ne manmani karne ki seema par kar di. Ab court mein ese kaise justify karte hain ye dekhna hain.
ReplyDeletedear friends
mai to aaj bhi cancel karwane ka kosis kar raha hu lekin aap kya kar rahe hai?
kuch information de raha hu
jpsc ne aant me kukand kar diya kaise?
4th jpsc ka final merit list ka cutoff marks hai…..
general———990
bc 2————-963.55
bc 1————-936
sc—————-915
st—————–881
jpsc ne interview ke 200 marks ko meaningless kar diya kaise..
lagbagh 250 student jo interview diye the agar unko interview ka 200 marks bhi de diya jaye to bhi wo final merit list me nahi aa sakte.
exmple……
st candidate me 657, 654, 661,671, marks mains me mila aur inka interview call kiya gaya ab aaplog mains ke marks me interview ka marks add kare
inko 200 bhi interview me mil jaye to bhi final list me nahi aa sakte.
scaling ke karan geography me 24/400 n 392/400
anthropology me 72/400 n 395/400
lsw me 119/400 n 397/400 etc. ye sabhi interview diye aur fail bhi hogaye.
mai yaha ye batane ka kosis kar raha hu ki scaling ke karan marks ka variation itna jyada nahi hona chahiye.
again case file maine kiya hai jiska date 13/12/12 ko hai
case no. wps 7050/2012 (kishor kumar chopra vs state of jharkhand)
ek case aaj file kar raha hu upar jo point diye hai uspar.
dono case ka advocate manoj tandon hai.
lekin court me sunwaai ho tabhi justice mil payega.
thanks
ajay choudhary(9931554535)
cjm
mail.. chhatrajagranmanch@gmail.com
agar kuch information dena chhate hai to mail kare.
ajay bhai,5th jpsc ke bare me kuchh bataiye, notification kab tak aa raha hai.
ReplyDeletewhat happened at court today ?.
ReplyDeletei had written to examination controller & chairman to review the marks , got reply as given below -
after JE interview,such matters may be looked into
Any news.. what happened in court yesterday
ReplyDeletejpsc ne already apne recommendation govt k send kar diye hain aur unki appointment ho jayegi.. fir kuch nahi hoga... ye jharkhand hai..
ReplyDeleteJPSc ko apna kaam time se karne do aue court ko apna kaam karne do. Bas wait karo ki sunwai kab hogi court me aur jpsc k upper lage allegation sabit ho pate hain ki nahin. Koi authentic news 5th jpsc k baare me ki notification aane ki sambhawna kab tak hai. Bhai Personnel ministry se bhi pata karo na kitni seats hogi 5th jpsc me.
ReplyDeleteajay chaudhary ji...apki dukan jitni chalni thi chal chuki...ab aap yahan se pack up kijiye aur logon ko bewakooph banana choodiye....kab thak failed students ka court ke naam pe paise khakar kamate rahenge....thodi akal lagaiye aur 5th jpsc ke exam ki taiyari kijiye..agar nahin kar sakte to kuch aur kijiye...jharkhand job fair me bhi try kar sakte hain.
ReplyDeleteBaki Aapki Marzi
jpsc 5th ka notice last week of dec me ayega aur exam 1 to 15th april ke beec me hoga.authentic info hai
ReplyDeleteVery good Vivek....God bless you.
ReplyDeleteYes JE interview k baad 5th ka notification aa jayega. Abhi interview lene me jpsc busy hai.
ReplyDelete@ Anonymous
ReplyDeleteAjay cahaudhry jaise banne mein tumhe ek janm aur lena padega,Tum jaise spineless and senseless yadi adhikari ban gaya to administration ke beda gark hai.Ajay has done very good job against rotten system,. Tumhe exam aur result ki kya samajh hai? Jpsc ne two papers ko combined kar marks diya kya ye sahi hai,?secondly scaling interview ke bad hua kya ye sahi hai?Thirdly Scaling process me optional me kisi ko 400 marks to kisi ko 24 and 75 mile hai ,kya scaling process sahi hai?
Exam process me jitna time, resources lagta hai uski kimat ka pata hai tumhe?
Kisi ko gali dekar koi aage nahi badhta ,balki apni himmat,sahas, aur ability and overall jo system ke galyiyo khilaph bolne aur khada hone ka madda rakhta hai wo asli hero hai.
jpsc ko reccomendation cabinet ke approval ke baad milta hai. cabinet me ye matter kis din aya bhai thoda batana. 20th ko pattern ko lekar bani committee ki baithak hai. 5th notification march ke baad ana hai dear. abhi maje karo.
ReplyDeletePattern ke baithak se iska koi lena dena nahi hai.
ReplyDeleteHan ye bat ho sakti hai ki JPSC CBI ke report ka intjar kare jika final jan me aa jayega.
jan 1st week me Sup court me case hai uske bad ranchi HC matter ko sunega aur 1st and 2nd walon ki barkhasgi sahi hai..
then ayega
deewakar ji,I agree with your point .Aise vivek ji ki news bhi sahi ho sakti hai.Aap log isi tarah kuchh update karte rahen,achha lagta hai.
ReplyDelete@anonymous
ReplyDeleteReply as given below -
after JE interview,such matters may be looked into
Chalo atleast kuch reply to aaya.. mere mail ka to avi tak nahi aaya hai.. even after je interview if they look into the issue that is a gr8 thing because irregularities itni badi hai ki koi thoda v dekhna chahe to use dikh jayega....
We must do what ever is in my hand.. rest jo v ho......
Vivek ji, aapke news ka source kitna authentic hai?Aise aapki bat sahi nikle, hum yahi chahte hain,lekin isi blog pe kuchh log march ke bad notification bne ki bat kar rahe hain, isme aapki kya raya hai?please comment &give your valuable information.
ReplyDelete@ranjan
ReplyDeletei have mailed to chairman as well as controller and deputy controller of exam, reply was given by controller. but i dont think they are much serious since the had send the recommendation to the government. even i have not got reply of my rti
Ab sirf court ka hi sahara hai, jpsc apne aap apni galti man ne wala nahi hai .
ReplyDelete@ friend/ajay chaudhary/ self proclamied real hero: kaun adhikari banne ke layak kai woh tum jpsc jo ek constitutional body hai us par chhod do. aur problem hai to jao aur khud constitutional tarike se case lado...blog par dukan chalane aur bhik mangne se tumhe kuch milne wala nahi.
ReplyDeleteApne sath sath dusro ka bhi samay nashta kar rahe ho. Apni hypocrisy band karo..agar tumhara result aa jata to tum bhi abhi chicken phad rahe honte...abhi bhi samay hai murkha...and i reiterate...apne spine ko straight kar aur apna sense 5th jpsc me concentrate karo.
ha ha ha... very true...
ReplyDelete@ of above
ReplyDeleteuski dukan ab shiv bashant band karega ha ha ha
aap dono bahut ghatiya mentality ke ho jo ajay choudhary aur ranjan aur kumar ke against bol rahe ho.
ReplyDeleteJaldi ha....ha...ha...band ho jayegi, jab result scrap/ revised hoga aur sadak par aa jaoge.Ranjan , kumar ,chaudhry jaise logo ke samne tumsabo ki aukat kya hai ye to tumhari ghatiya mansikta se pata chalta hai. tum sabo ki ha..ha..ha..to aahh...aahhhh..aaahhh...me bafal jayegi
ReplyDeletekoi pass kare ya fail,hum jaise ko kya fark padta hai,hum to pt me hi fail the,isliye bandhugan kirpya 5th jpsc ka news update karen.
ReplyDeletenewspaper padhte raho bhai, is blog par kisi ko nahi pata kab notification aayega.
ReplyDelete1.It seems that JPSC has declared mains result on the basis of unscaled marks and later after interview they scaled the marks of main exam and then declared final result on the basis of scaled marks.Because of this many students who could have got the chance of being in interview were deprived of interview..
ReplyDelete2.UPSC follow moderation for main exam, but JPSC done scaling and inflated the marks UP TO99.25% in even humanities papers.most of the selected candidates awarded between 90-99.25 % scaled marks on other hand in same subject due to scaling candidates awarded even only 6% marks.
3. After result of main exam the process of scaling is gross violation of ART 14 &Art 16 of constitution,those failed in main exam.
4. DUE TO SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW the difference of marks between selected candidates is more then 200-300 and 500 marks in some cases,where total marks 1400. (1200 optional+gs and 200 interview).
5.JPSC has done a major mistake by combined scaling of both papers. How JPSC can scaled the marks of two paper combinedly,when you have taken exam separetly , Any commission do scaling like this? Combined scaling is also major procedural lapse,it greatly impacted the marks, if a person get higher marks in paper I ,but avarage marks in PaperII, due to this scaling he got added advantage in paperII and vice versa when paper II performance is below average .So This scaling process is errorneous.
Freinds I am not joking let me explain first it by an example if any candidate got 180 marks in paper I and 100 marks in PAPER II,
scenario I- he will get marks on the basis of90 % scoring and maximum limit will 200 marks
In PAPER I ,but his Second paper score will be according to50% score.
But in COMBINED SCALING SITUATION HE WILL GET SCALED marks in PAPER II according to 70% scoring,so he got added advantage in paper II.
Senario 2 he will get marks on the basis of90 % scoring and maximum limit will 200 marks
In PAPER I, but if his score 100 is below avarage then he will get marks as per downward sacling.
But in COMBINED SCALING SITUATION HE WILL GET SCALED marks in PAPER II according to 70% scoring,so he got added advantage in paper II
@ SKumar,
ReplyDeleteSir high court me sunwai ka koi date mila ki nahi? jeet to hamari hi hogi, ye to pakka hai.
suna hai ki 5th jpsc ke bare me local tv channel per kuchh aaya tha, 4-5din pahle,kisi ko pata ho to update karen.
ReplyDeletesayad 200ke karib seat ki bat kahi gayi thi,aur notification ke date ke bare me kaha gaya tha ki jald aane wala hai,aap logon ko kuchh pata ho to update karen
ReplyDelete@ Dipu
DeleteSeats will be more then 450 but notification date is uncertain, most probably after JE interview gets over. Do u any idea that when interview is going to finish?
Aanonymouus
ReplyDeleteyes you r rt.. jpsc does not seem serious to the plight of those students who suffered to arbitrary scaling of JPSC.. Recommendation send karne ka matlab to hai ki wo hamare points ko accept nahi karna chahte although wo v jante hain ki wo wrong footing par hain... aur agar ek baar ladkon ne join kar liya to ye court se v difficult ho jayega unhe remove karake deserving ko unki jagah par appoint karna if any...but hum kar kya sakte hain .. court itna slow kaam karti hai yahan.. wo stay jaldi lagana nahi chahti..
kuch log kah rahe hain ki jpsc constitutional body hai to iska ye matlab nahi hai ki wo kuch v kar sakte hain.. isi constitutional body ke former chairman kai saalon se jail me band hain..
Jo 5th ka notification ka wait kar rahe hain wo sahi hai unhe karna v chahiye aur preparation v karna chahiye.. but at the same time unhe v samajhna hoga ki ye unke saath v ho sakta hai next aatempt me.. so wo v jpsc ke is scaling ka jis method se oppose kar sakein karein.. chahe wo point behejen jinhone court me case kiya hai ya gyapan den jpsc ko ya atleast mail likhein unhe.. this is for all..
main already achhe job me hoon aur main 6 marks se finally miss kiya hoon..agar mujhe information ys co-opeerative mil v gaya to main join nahi karunga.. but still main v fight karne ki koshish kar raha hoon .. aur aap v karein kyunki ye poori tarah se galat hai and any one can be the victim..
http://www.facebook.com/manoj.tandon.129?fref=ts
ReplyDeletethis is the facebook id of manoj tandon lawyer who is pleading the case..
If any one have any relevent point regarding the case pls. message him
Very true Ranjan ji, jis system me jpsc chal raha hai candidates PT to qualify kar jayenge aur agar sahi optional choose kiya to wo bhi clear ho jayega lekin interview k baad aapko jpsc k faulty scaling k bharose rahna hoga na ki apne talent par.Interview ka to koi matlab hi nahi rah gaya hai.
ReplyDelete@ Ranjan
ReplyDeleteDid you communicate to MR Manoj Tondon regarding illegal combined scaling and After interview scaling.
ranjan ji.....pls stop campaigning for your malicious design...6 no. se miss hone ki baichaini hum samajh sakte hain....apko kya lagata hai jo select hue woh sab underserving hain?????
ReplyDelete......aap bade enthusiastic the jab apka interview call aya...congratulate karne lag gaye sabko...jpsc pe poora bharosa tha apko. aur us samay bhi pt result ka case court me chal raha tha...lekin apke kisi bhi posts me uske liye koi jagaha nahi tha....ap interview strategy pe jut gaye the..aur apna result nahi ane ke baad achanat se jpsc faulty lagne laga..badhai to dur ulta result pe hi question mark utha diya...
yah to aap apna political career banana chahte hain yah apne select nahin hone se frustrate ho gaye hain...dono hi case me logon ko gumrah karna thik nahin hai....
apki baat bilkul thik hai ki aap ek achhi post par hain..shayad isiliye 5th jpsc aspirant ki apko chinta nahin hai....apka tu kuch nahin jaega par haan bechare aspirants ka samay aur career jaroor khatm ho jayega..agar politics hi karni hai to pls janata ke bich jaiye aur real issues ko uthaiye....first time in the history of jpsc fair result aya hai....jahan kisi ki bhi nahi chali...har subject, her state se log select hue hain...phir bhi apko apatti hai...mujhe lagta hai aap jaise log hi is jpsc ke functioning me aur state ke development me sabse badi badha hain. Agar injustice ka itna hi concern hai to apko bahut issues main deta hoon....pls knock the door of UPSC and try to discover its irregularities...apko samajh aa jayega ki ek constitutional body kya hoti hai.
to the all future apirants of jpsc....pls focus on your studies.....ek sawal puhiye apne aap se...kyon sirf fail candidate hi result pe apatti uthate hain...jiska mains ho gaya usne pt result par apatti uthani chhod di.....jiska final nahin hua ab woh injustice chilla rahe hain...yeh sirf self interest aur narrow politics ke liye kiya jaa raha hai...ap kripya sachet rahein aur next exam pe dhyan de.
ReplyDeletedosto yahan aadat ho gayi hai...har result ke baad hungama karo.....aur baad me system ko slow hone ka dosh do..
ReplyDelete@ Ranjan
ReplyDeleteBy denying the importance of cooperative and information services.....you are displaying your power hungry attitude....and for the greed of power you are playing with career of future aspirants....request you to stop this and prove your mettle in exam.
Ranjan ji ko pass karaiye... humari sirf yehi ek mang hai.. Ranjan ji ko pass karao
ReplyDeleteRanjan apne job pe dhyn de... agar tum apna job acche se karoge to society k lie kuch contribute kar paoge ...agar activist banna chahte to naukri choro aur road pe akar baat karo... 5th ka form sbse pehle bharne jaoge..are bhai hosh me aao aur bakwas band karo...
ReplyDeletekisi bhai ko 5th ke notification ke bare me kuchh pata ho to batayen, aayog to phone hi nahi uthata.
ReplyDeletecase file hoya ki nahi?
ReplyDelete@Dipu,
ReplyDeletephone nahi utha raha to e-mail karo.
Bhaiyo Ranjan ji to job me hain aur 4th jpsc ka interview bhi diya ye badi baat hai kyunki job me rahte hue time nahi milta hai preparation karne ka par aap log to abhi job me bhi nahi ho fir bhi mains nahi de paa rahe ho, isliye bakwaas mat karo.
ReplyDeletedear friends
ReplyDelete5th jpsc ka notifiation 2012 me nahi aane wala.
4th jpsc ke cutof marks ko lekar ho halla ho raha hai police services(women)-891 marks me kaise, kyoooo?????///////
women kota me 891 marks me saletion esliye ho gaya kyoki height 5 “5″ hona jaruri hai.
891 se jayada marks lane wali rita kumari-940,kavita agrawal-963 etc ka saletion height kam hone ke karan nahi huaa hai.
agar women cat. me kisi ka 891 se jayada marks hai aur height 5″5′ hai to mujhe mail kare.
chhatrajagranmanch@gmail.com
or call me 9931554535.
interview se pahle wps 7050/2012 court me file kiya hai jo ki alok singh ke court me 20/12/12 ko hai.
interview ke baad wps 8377/2012 court me file huaa hai jiska date 04/01/2013 ko mil sakta hai.
thanks
ajay ji ne to karan bhi bata diya ki un 2 ladkiyo ka selection height kam hone k karan nahi hua.. ab yehi baat judge sahab se bhi sun lena.. good work ajay..
ReplyDeletehave never said that those who have succeeded are undeserving.. never u see my above comments...I have also said that it may be that those who are passed now may remain successful even after rescaling but i have objection on the way scaling has been done and value of GS and Interview has been undermined. More over combined scaling and scaling after interview and not after the mains is totally wrong even you will agree...And we are opposing that only..
ReplyDeleteAur main information service join karunga ya co-operative nahi karunga this is my personal choice..No one should object that which post should I opt for ...Yes even in interview I wasa sked that u r in such a high paying job and then why you are coming in a job which is not so attractive and u will not get this salary even at the retirement here.....Interviewers clearly told me that these jobs are nothing in compare to IAS..But i convinced them that still I want to join these jobs and see my marks I have ended up getting decent marks in interview(126).. I do not say that info service or co-opertaive is not good but I have already my own career calculation.I will decide which setvice to chose based on my personal position, career growth and many other things including my personal wishes to serve the people. So no body should question on my priorities of services that which one I should opt for.
Rahi meri job par dhyaan dene ki baat to uski chinta aap mat karo.. I am doing quiet well in what ever services I am and will keep on doing better..
Kisi ne mujhe activist banne ke liye job chhorne ki salaah di hai.. waah re advise.. kya main jisse suffer kiya hoon uske liye aawaaj nahi utha sakta...koi injustice ke liye bole to activist... Any aam people has right to spaeak against wrong doing..Ab ka delhi me gang rape hua gar main aawaaj utauon jis v madhyam se utha sakta hoon to aap kahenge ki pahle aap job chhoriye.. wah re tarika...bhagawan bachaye aise logon se..
Personal attacking to me is not the solution.. May be those who are attacking are passed students.. I have never said anything against passed students..I really admire them and accept that rt now they are successful one.. But I have opposed the way scaling has been done..
You just fight against the wrong doings done by JPSC as it can happen to any one tomorrow..
@skumar
ReplyDeleteYes I have sent the message highlighting all the points raised by you and others to manoj tandon.. If you have new points p,ls. messsage it to him..
Kuch log mujhe mains me metttle prove karne ki dvice de rahe hain...Mian corporate sector me job karte hue v math optionals se pt aur mains diya hoon.. Aap me se kitne ki himmat hai maths lene ki..sirf 13 bachhe hi math se mains diye the..This is not to demean personal from pther subject.. I respect all subjects..
ReplyDeleteinterview se pahle wps 7050/2012 court me file kiya hai jo ki alok singh ke court me 20/12/12 ko hai.
ReplyDeleteinterview ke baad wps 8377/2012 court me file huaa hai jiska date 04/01/2013 ko mil sakta hai
matlab ht kam par bhi le lena chahiye ajay ke hissab se ! kam par lo to corruption nahi lo to corruption ,gajab logic hai is ajay chaudhary ka .
ReplyDeleteye to post ka preference dene wale ki galti hai....height kam aur police adm , aisa kaise ho sakta hai baki services me cut off bhi jyada hai fir job kahan se milegi.In dono case me JPSC sahi hai.
ReplyDeleteranjan ko pass karao... humari mang puri karo..scaling method change karo aur ranjan ko accomodate karo..
ReplyDeleteBhaiyo wait kar lo aur dekho january me court k order k baad jpsc re-revised result nikal kar kisko in aur out karta hai.
ReplyDeletei think the candidates who had written mains exam in English are at disadvantage as per trend of marks, since the mains answer sheet had no option to indicate the language used
ReplyDeleteNothing like that my friends who got selected had english medium and myself scored good marks in english medium.
ReplyDeletei feel like that since in both of my optionals i have answered with same accuracy yet i got 390 in one and 190 in another . also with more errors and less attempt i got more marks in gs paper 1 since it was fact based than in paper 2 which was analytical
ReplyDeleteaapke optionals kya the? 190 aapke combined scaling ka natija hai. Get the raw marks from jpsc then u will know the real picture.
ReplyDeletebhaiya ranjan ji.......who forced you to opt maths as an optional...you chose it becuase of your confort with the subject.......if you consider opting math is a courageous step then either you are agains doing self pulicity or you are a fool as you could easily get through with an easier optional...
ReplyDeleteMr Ranjan...pls don't try to showcase your achievement despite remaining in job...there are many successful candidates in the list whose sacrifices and struggle is beyond your imagination. People with wife and kids have sold their property, did full time jobs and got through in adminstrative eservices in the exam....again pls stop playing politics over a non-issue.
ReplyDelete@ Ranjan
ReplyDeleteImpressive lecture but still you are not going to befool anyone...you are raising the issue coz you could not get through...We would be more glad if you protest against the rape crime......but you are showing your activism because you see a chance to get in this exam.......thing is not going to happen at any cost....take it for sure.
5th jpsc pt without optional. See today's hindustan ranchi edition.
ReplyDeleteThere is perceptibly a lot to
ReplyDeleterealize about this. I consider you made certain nice points in
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ReplyDeleteHere some people justifying the wrong deeds of JPSC,They forget GALAT GALAT hota hain.Kisi main dum hai to JPSC ke dwara liye gaye decision ko defend point wise kare, bekar ki illogical bato ka koi fayda nahi.
ReplyDelete1.SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW kaise sahi hai koi justfy kar baatye.
2.Kya Interview ke bad scaling ke bajay main ke result ke pahle scaling nahi karna ,JPSC ka galt decicision nahi hai.
3.Scaling me kisi ko 99.5% aur kisi 6% marks ,itna huge difference sahi hai.
4.Two optional papers ka combined marks kaise diya ja skta hai? JPSC ka combined scaling decision ka sahi hai?
No more reply to personal comments ...
ReplyDeleteWe are here to raise the wrongdoings done by jpsc an we will keep on doing it.. Any one who has issue with it pls. ignore this post....
I can understand the frustration of those who have passed due to wrong doings of jps and are fearful that they might have to be dropped out...My empathies are with them.. But wrong is wrong... No personal comment will be entertained as itsolves no purpose and just deviates from main points raised by us..These are points raisd by us..If any one can justify jpsc on these points are free to do it but do it logically--
ReplyDelete1.GS n interview me highest marks 70% ke range me hai, gs me to aur v kam hai.. jabki optional me 100% ke range me.. isse gs aur interview ka importance hi khatm ho gaya..Baki paper me v highest marks 70% ke around hona chahiye tha.
Suppose kijiye kisi student ko kisi paper me scaling ke baad 398 hai aur kisi ko 298 to difference 100 marks ka ho gaya
Yahi agar highest 70% yani ki 280 diya jata to doosre student ko jise ki avi 298 mila hai use 298/398*280=209 milta usi proportion me.
to uska difference ghatkar sirf 71 marks rah jata jo ki wo gs aur interview se compensate kar sakta tha..
ye bahut important point hai.. highest post scaled marks 398-399 dene ke chalte students ke optional marks me difference kafi jyada ho gaya hai aur GS n interview ka important hi khtam hogaya..
agar optionals me inflate kar 400 karna tha to interview and gs me v usi ratio me marks barhana chhaiye tha wahan v highest 200 milna chhaiye ha per paper..
ya optionals ka highest reduce kar 70% ke range me lana chahiye..
Upsc follows moderation in mains and highest marks in optionas is always in the range of 70 like that of GS and interview..
2.. It seems that JPSC has declared mains result on the basis of unscaled marks and later after interview they scaled the marks of main exam and then declared final result on the basis of scaled marks.Because of this many students who could have got the chance of being in interview were deprived of interview..
3.UPSC follow moderation for main exam, but JPSC done scaling and inflated the marks UP TO99.25% in even humanities papers.most of the selected candidates awarded between 90-99.25 % scaled marks on other hand in same subject due to scaling candidates awarded even only 6% marks.
4. After result of main exam the process of scaling is gross violation of ART 14 &Art 16 of constitution,those failed in main exam.
5. DUE TO SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW the difference of marks between selected candidates is more then 200-300 and 500 marks in some cases,where total marks 1400. (1200 optional+gs and 200 interview).
6.JPSC has done a major mistake by combined scaling of both papers. How JPSC can scaled the marks of two paper combinedly,when you have taken exam separetly , Any commission do scaling like this? Combined scaling is also major procedural lapse,it greatly impacted the marks, if a person get higher marks in paper I ,but avarage marks in PaperII, due to this scaling he got added advantage in paperII and vice versa when paper II performance is below average .So This scaling process is errorneous.
ReplyDeleteFreinds I am not joking let me explain first it by an example if any candidate got 180 marks in paper I and 100 marks in PAPER II,
scenario I- he will get marks on the basis of90 % scoring and maximum limit will 200 marks
In PAPER I ,but his Second paper score will be according to50% score.
But in COMBINED SCALING SITUATION HE WILL GET SCALED marks in PAPER II according to 70% scoring,so he got added advantage in paper II.
Senario 2 he will get marks on the basis of90 % scoring and maximum limit will 200 marks
In PAPER I, but if his score 100 is below avarage then he will get marks as per downward sacling.
But in COMBINED SCALING SITUATION HE WILL GET SCALED marks in PAPER II according to 70% scoring,so he got added advantage in paper II
7.scaling me average marks aur deviation ka sue kiya gaya hai .Ab chunki jo v ladke mains qualify kiye hain unka avg marks jyada hai aur deviation v kam hai.. jiske chalte topper ko to thik marks mil 397 ke range me but jis kisi ko v avg se thoda v kam marks tha uska scaled marks kafi kam ho gaya i mean 210-220 ke range me..
Yahi agar total 2200 students par scaling ki jati to avg marks per subject kam hota as usme bahut ladke ke kam marks v honge tavi wo raw marks me qualify nahi kiye as well as deviation jyada hota.. so toppers ko to avi v 397 mailte but jinko 210-220 mile hain avi unhe 270-280 ke aas paas milta aur wo v shayad final qualify karte..
Agar aap jpsc ke point ko justify kar sakte hain to pls. point by point karein.. u r most welcome.... no personal things..
Very gud points Ranjan ji, i hope we will get the justice in court.
ReplyDeleteha ha ha... sahi hai.. to kyun bata rahe the ki maths lekar tumne bahot mahan kaam kiya? kisne tumse tumhare optionals puche? kisne tumhare interview k no puche? self proclaimed hero mat bano...
ReplyDeletejo selected hai unse tumhari lehar rahi hai ranjan.. babu jo pass kar gaye hai unhe respect dikhao..
ReplyDeleteI had answered my prsonal questions as they were raised by people in earlier posts..I still cud hv answered those points again raised by few people but Bythen I realised that these things are taking us away from the main points..So no more personal querry will be entertained..
ReplyDeleteIf u hv answer of these points pls.. reply.. I am 2day rewriting these points to jpsc chair,man for their reply..
@ ranjan.. agar 5th jpsc k mains me scaling hui to exam doge????? abhi bol do phir mains k baad scaling ko justify mat karna..
ReplyDeleteBuddy again u got it wrong.. tumhe hamara point samajh nahi aaya shayad.. we r not against scaling. I am highly n favour of scaling but ina way to moderate it as it is done by upsc.. mains ke time me hona chahiye tha.. combined nahi hona chahiye.. Maximum marks 70% ke range me hona chahiye jaise kiupsc me hota hai.. hope u get it.. yes agar ye sab nahi hota hai to main nahi dunga 5th jpsc.. isi ke liye chairman ko mail likh raha hoon...
ReplyDeletebahot acche... 4th me select nahi hue aur 5th to nahi dena hai.. phir yaha bakwas band karo aur jake apne job pe dhyn do... behave like a responsible citizen..
ReplyDeleteitna time tumko kahan se milta hai ranjan bakwas karne ka ?
ReplyDeleteanubhuti par bhi sabse jyada nautanki isi ranjan ki hai ! padho yaar kyo apna time barbaad karte ho ?
ReplyDeletebhaiya ranjan ji....do u really think we have time to read your lengthy shit.....in the name of justice don't waste time of others and do injustice to them.....you probably have lost your job and you have spare times to waste...can really help you fetch some as you seem to be talented...if interested pls upload your profile...but be precise.
ReplyDelete@ pass students.. humari sirf ek mang hai.. humare pappu(ranjan) ko pass karaya jaye....
ReplyDeleteanubhuti wala blog kis site pe khulta hai mujhe bhi batao ,bahut nam suna hai
ReplyDeleteranjan ko job offer mila hai... are waah... ranjan kumar.. party do bhai..profile upload karo bhai tumhari tasvir ka arti utarna hai.. jaldi karo...
ReplyDeletewhy not ranjan ji be made jpsc chairman?
ReplyDeleteRanjanji I am totally agree with U
ReplyDeleteHere some people justifying the wrong deeds of JPSC,They forget GALAT GALAT hota hain.Kisi main dum hai to JPSC ke dwara liye gaye decision ko defend point wise kare, bekar ki illogical bato ka koi fayda nahi.
1.SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW kaise sahi hai koi justfy kar baatye.
2.Kya Interview ke bad scaling ke bajay main ke result ke pahle scaling nahi karna ,JPSC ka galt decicision nahi hai.
3.Scaling me kisi ko 99.5% aur kisi 6% marks ,itna huge difference sahi hai.
4.Two optional papers ka combined marks kaise diya ja skta hai? JPSC ka combined scaling decision ka sahi hai?
Pass walo ki bechaini badh rahi hai kyoki unheb pata hai ki galat process me unki lottery lag gayi aur mamla court gaya to jindgi jhant ho jAYEGI.WO APNA FRUSTATION NIKALNE KI KOSHISH KAR RAHE HAIN.
Ye dead sure baat hain ki Jis naukri ka khwab dekh rahe hai wo to inke hatho se gayi.
ranjan k baton se anonymous hi agree kar sakta hai... padhna start karo nahi ti is baar bhi fail karoge..
ReplyDeletemehnat kijiye ye ranjan bahut bada nautanki baaj hai !
ReplyDeleteResult aur Job to court ki pahli sunwai me hi jayegi.JPSC ki lottery wali poll khulegi.
ReplyDeleteshiva bhai aap bahut din ke bad blog pe aaye,5th jpsc ka koi khabar hai jya?
ReplyDeleteI have said before that no reply to personal attack.. If u have some points to defend jpsc logically give it or pls. do not post on the reply of our posts..In that case in stead of writing bull shits plese ignore our posts..Those who haave common ground with us only they pls. reply..
ReplyDeletearre bhaiya kahe tumlog sari hui bdo kinaukrikeliye aapas me ladai kar rahe ho.. prabhat khbar prho daily ek bdo mr khta hi kvi prmukh se kvi mukhiya se kvi apne clerk se....burbk ho tumlog v...
ReplyDeleteLogon ke pt ke exam me wrong scaling ko lekr fight karne se bhale hi 4th me kuch nhi hua but 5th me to optional khtm ho gya..usi trh se galat mains scaling se fight karne pr 5th me to fir scling hogi kam se kam..
ReplyDeletehighcourt me pahli sunwai 9th jan ko.
ReplyDeleteroll no 7100301 date of birth 02/02/1974
roll no 7100902 date of birth 27/10/1974
iss tarah ke kam se kam 50 example court me diye gaye hai jaha candidates ko interview me 200 bhi dene par wo cut-off ke pass nahi pahuch sakte.
pata nahi iss exam ka kya hasr hoga!!!!!!!!!!
pass log adhik khush na ho. paise na udaye kahi b yah result hi na udd jay.
iss tarah ke 50 se adhik example ko court kaise ignore karegi!!!!!!
aisa koi rule nahi hai ki 200 marks interview mein milne k baad candidate cutoff cross kare hi.
ReplyDelete@ vivek,
ReplyDeletevery gud dear, justice zaroor milegi.
Vivek JI court me combined scaling ka matter bhi judwa dijiye ye pass wale jhant ho jayenge.
ReplyDeleteArbirtary tarike se marks award karna jpsc ke liye fassi ban jayega.
combined scaling na hone se kai log jinhe 380+ marks mile hai wo sab bahar honge.
second point after interview scaling ka process illegal hai,kyoki isse main fail hone wale ka FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS Right to equal opportunity ka violation hua hai.
EN DONO POINT PAR HI RESULT SCRAP HO JAYEGA.
Yaha kuch wale pass log bechain ho kar logo ka attention divert karna chah rahe hai, UNHE RANJAN aur MR Anonymous KE sawal ka jwab nahi mil raha hain unhe dar hai ki inki baate court ke samne aayi to result gaya.FOLLOWING Points important hai ise supplementry dal kar petition me ye matter dalwa dijiye result ko lekar khushiya manane wale log matam manayenge:-
1.SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW kaise sahi hai koi justfy kar baatye.
2.Kya Interview ke bad scaling ke bajay main ke result ke pahle scaling nahi karna ,JPSC ka galt decicision nahi hai.
3.Scaling me kisi ko 99.5% aur kisi 6% marks ,itna huge difference sahi hai.
4.Two optional papers ka combined marks kaise diya ja skta hai? JPSC ka combined scaling decision ka sahi hai?
pappu(ranjan) ko koi kuch nai bolega.. ..
ReplyDeletedear friends
ReplyDeletekuch information chahiye help kare..
roll no. d.o.b.
7101496 10/02/76
7103170 25/11/75
7102518 01/03/82
7100367 06/06/83
7100481 05/08/80
7103005 04/07/82
7100301 02/02/74
7100280 11/01/77
7100942 03/07/85
7100891 09/10/83
7101357 29/04/87
7100333 25/03/78
7100331 15/02/82
7101887
7101782
7101290
7101063
7102795 15/12/85
7101031 24/04/80
7101697 05/11/74
7100009 06/01/82
7102275 22/04/79
7102813 03/03/70
7102912 07/02/81
7103146 20/03/71
7100117 05/05/82
7101718 21/12/87
7103005 04/07/82
7101329 03/01/75
7100100 28/07/75
es tarah ke kafi candidate hai jinko interview me maximum 200 marks bhi de diya jaye to bhi ye paas nahi kar sakte.
aaplogo me jinka bhi rank 450 se jyada hai wo apna roll no. aur d.o.b. blog par de ya mail kare at chhatrajagranmanch@gmail.com par ya call kare 9931554535.
kyoki lagbhag 200 candidate aise hai jinko interview me maximum marks bhi diya jaye to bhi fail hai.
aaj case no. wps-7441/2012 ki sunbaaee justice alok sing ke court me huee, alok singh ne kaha hai k agar 100 se jayda candidate ka interview agar meaningless hai to 4th jpsc interview cancel hoga. mujhe counter file karna hai esliye aaplog help kare.
thanks (ajay choudhary)
ye news puri tarah jhut hai koi asunwayi nahi hui hai vishwas karen ajay chudhary jhoot bol raha hai .
ReplyDeleteaap log 7441/2012 jharkhand hc ke website par case status me daal kar dekh len aur cause list me v dekh sakte hain .ye news galat hai .
ReplyDeleteNews paper me bhi is case ke baare aaj prakashit hua hai.
ReplyDeletedear friends
ReplyDeletekuch information chahiye help kare..
roll no. d.o.b.
7101496 10/02/76
7103170 25/11/75
7102518 01/03/82
7100367 06/06/83
7100481 05/08/80
7103005 04/07/82
7100301 02/02/74
7100280 11/01/77
7100942 03/07/85
7100891 09/10/83
7101357 29/04/87
7100333 25/03/78
7100331 15/02/82
7101887
7101782
7101290
7101063
7102795 15/12/85
7101031 24/04/80
7101697 05/11/74
7100009 06/01/82
7102275 22/04/79
7102813 03/03/70
7102912 07/02/81
7103146 20/03/71
7100117 05/05/82
7101718 21/12/87
7103005 04/07/82
7101329 03/01/75
7100100 28/07/75
es tarah ke kafi candidate hai jinko interview me maximum 200 marks bhi de diya jaye to bhi ye paas nahi kar sakte.
aaplogo me jinka bhi rank 450 se jyada hai wo apna roll no. aur d.o.b. blog par de ya mail kare at chhatrajagranmanch@gmail.com par ya call kare 9931554535.
kyoki lagbhag 200 candidate aise hai jinko interview me maximum marks bhi diya jaye to bhi fail hai.
aaj case no. wps-7441/2012 ki sunbaaee justice alok sing ke court me huee, alok singh ne kaha hai k agar 100 se jayda candidate ka interview agar meaningless hai to 4th jpsc interview cancel hoga. mujhe counter file karna hai esliye aaplog help kare.
thanks (ajay choudhary)
Those who are active on this forum and know people in rank access of 450 pls. send their rollno and date of birth.. we know such roll nos but we do not have access of their dob.. JPSC has played game by putting dob...
ReplyDelete"Mujhe bacha lo...main jeena chahti hoon (Save me...I want to live)," is what the 23-year-old gang rape victim told her family, according to the girl's brother. Though she is still incapable of speaking, she also made enquiries about her family and the condition of her male friend through scribbled notes.
ReplyDeleteI have put info required by ajay chaudhary in http://statecommission.blogspot.in/2012/08/bpsc-interview-53rrd-55th-combined.html and http://www.facebook.com/groups/bpscinterview/ for their help.. If u people know abt any such forum pls. put their also..
ReplyDelete
ReplyDeleteI would like add some points please look in to it
1.The pattern marks clearly indicates that JPSC has done scaling only after the result of main exam ,the result of main declared on the basis of unscaled marks, so it clearly violation of fundamental rights of equal opportunity,Art 14 & 16 of those appeared in main exam and failed in main exam, because merit list prepare on the basis of marks of main and interview. There is very much possibility that if scaling done during main exam many candidates appeared in interview they were not eligible and those are out may eligible for appearing in interview.So scaling process is after result of main exam is illegal.
2.JPSC has scaled the marks of combinedly of two papers, scheme of exam clearly stated that TWO separate papers of 200 marks each ,so separate evaluation is must .But JPSC has changed the rules between the game and awarded the scaled marks by clubbing the marks of both papers.By clubbing the both papers raw /unscaled marks and awarding the scaled marks make scaling process erroneous because it extend undue benefit to candidates who scored good in one paper and not good score in second paper and loss to candidates who performed average in both papers.SCALING must be paper wise instead of by clubbing of both papers,so process of scaling is illegal and faulty.No commission scaled or moderate the marks by clubbing of two papers marks. combined scaling is also major procedural lapse,it greatly impacted the marks, if a person get higher marks in paper I ,but avarage marks in PaperII, due to this scaling he got added advantage in paperII and vice versa when paper II performance is below average .So This scaling process is erroneous.
Freinds I am not joking let me explain first it by an example if any candidate got 180 marks in paper I and 100 marks in PAPER II,
scenario I- he will get marks on the basis of90 % scoring and maximum limit will 200 marks
In PAPER I ,but his Second paper score will be according to50% score.
But in COMBINED SCALING SITUATION HE WILL GET SCALED marks in PAPER II according to 70% scoring,so he got added advantage in paper II.
Senario 2 he will get marks on the basis of90 % scoring and maximum limit will 200 marks
In PAPER I, but if his score 100 is below avarage then he will get marks as per downward sacling.
But in COMBINED SCALING SITUATION HE WILL GET SCALED marks in PAPER II according to 70% scoring,so he got added advantage in paper II
3.UPSC follow moderation for main exam, but JPSC done scaling and inflated the marks UP TO99.25% in even humanities papers.most of the selected candidates awarded between 90-99.25 % scaled marks on other hand in same subject due to scaling candidates awarded even only 6% marks.such variation clearly indicate that scaling method /formula is illogical and erroneous.
4.DUE TO SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW the difference of marks in optional papers between selected candidates is more then 200-300 marks in some cases,where total marks 800.However it is important to mention that after such big difference of marks in main how make possible to them eligible for interview. SO definitely Scaling done after INTERVIEW and after interview scaling of MAIN EXAMS marks make scaling process illegal and arbitrary.
I am Thankful to you all for making such brilliant effort against irregularities of JPSC and my best wishes with you all.
@skumar, ranjan and others..
ReplyDeleteI have talked to ajay chaudhary.. wo kuch aisa judgement maang rahe hain jisme ki ye likha ho ki upsc moderation karti hai na ki scaling aur marks ko 99% inflate nahi karti...Agar aapke paas kuch ho to is forum par share karein ya chhatra jagran manch ko mail krein..
SEE Other Important FAQs OF UPSC states as below process of moderation
ReplyDelete1.After the written examination, on what criterion is the answer books sent for evaluation? Is it on Roll no. basis or based on centre of examination? That is, will a particular examiner/set of examiners get to evaluate answer books only of a particular center or a particular group of Roll nos.?
Mixing of the answer books received from different venues is done before sending them for evaluation. Computer-based randomized fictitious code no. is given to each answer-book before evaluation.
2Are answer books segregated/sorted based on community of the candidate?
This is not done at any stage of the evaluation process.
3Is it likely that my evaluated performance suffers because my answer books were evaluated by a 'strict' examiner, while another candidate benefits as his answer books were evaluated by a 'liberal' examiner?
The Paper Setter, who is an eminent person in his field, normally acts as the Head Examiner, and wherever the number of candidates in a particular subject is very large, the Commission appoints Additional Examiners for valuation of answer books.
To achieve uniformity in valuation, where more than one Examiner is involved, the Commission arranges a meeting of the Head Examiner with the Additional Examiners after the Examination is over. At this stage, they discuss thoroughly the question paper, the appropriate answers and decide the standard of evaluation.
To further bring about uniformity of assessment inter se the Examiners, the following procedure is undertaken:
The Head Examiner conducts a sample survey of answer books of each Additional Examiner to verify whether the uniform standards of evaluation evolved in the meeting of Examiners have actually been followed. Depending on the standard adopted by the Additional Examiner, the Head Examiner may confirm the awards without any change if the Examiner has correctly followed the standard decided upon, or may carry out upward / downward moderation as considered necessary to ensure maximum possible degree of uniformity in the evaluation process.
Therefore, the aspect of inter examiner variation in standards of evaluation in a Paper affecting candidates' performance is taken care of adequately.
But u haven't mentioned any thing about what is done between two different optionals when the marking differs.
ReplyDeleteNO SCALING IS DONE BY UPSC IN MAINS
ReplyDeleteRefer to this case in Delhi High Court. Prashant Ramesh Chakkarwar vs Union Public Service Commission & … on 5 October, 2010.
26. From a cumulative reading ofI Moderation and scaling of marks are two different techniques used by examining authorities for achieving common standard of assessment of marks.
II UPSC does not apply the method of scaling of marks in evaluating the answer-sheets of the candidates pertaining to Civil Services (Main) Examination and confines the application of the said method in evaluation of answer-sheets of the candidates pertaining to Civil Services (Preliminary) Examination.
III The method of moderation of marks propounded by Supreme Court in Sanjay Singh‟s case (supra) is similar to the W.P.(C) No.6586/2010 & Conn. Matters Page 38 of 43 one applied by UPSC in evaluating the answer-sheets of the candidates pertaining to Civil Services (Main) Examination.
IV The method of moderation of marks applied by UPSC in evaluating the answer-sheets of the candidates pertaining to Civil Services (Main) Examination has been approved by a learned Single Judge and a Division Bench of this Court.
Moderation technique by UPSC 1
16. Moderation is applied by UPSC to achieve uniformity in standards of evaluation of descriptive answer books where a number of examiners are involved. The problem of uniformity of standards becomes more complex when viewed against the background that candidates in Civil Services (Main) Examination have the option of answering the papers, besides English, in any one of the eighteen languages specified in the Eighth Schedule of the Constitution.
17. As far as connventional/descriptive type of examinations are concerned, the question papers are set up by experts duly approved by the Commission for each subject. The paper setter acts as the Head Examiner.
18. When conventional papers are set, the answers have to be of descriptive type by the very nature of questions, and such answers are evaluated by a
W.P.(C) No.6586/2010 & Conn. Matters Page 12 of 43 number of examiners, depending upon the number of candidates. These examiners are called Additional Examiners and work under the Head Examiner for each subject.
19. The Commission have devised a procedure of moderation to ensure equitable treatment to all candidates and to judge them on merit by reducing the "Examination variability" to the extent possible.
Moderation Technique- 2
20. The experts who set the question papers for each subject, act as Head-Examiner for the evaluation of the answer-books of that subject/paper. Whenever the number of candidates is very large in a particular subject, the Commission appoints Additional Examiners from amongst subject experts. Each Additional Examiner evaluates approximately 250 to 300 answer books. To achieve uniformity in valuation, where more than one examiner are involved, the UPSC arrange for a meeting of the Head Examiner with his additional examiners for each subject soon after the examination is over. At this stage, they thoroughly discuss the question paper and the appropriate answers. They also carry out a sample valuation of answer books and this is reviewed by the Head Examiner and variations in marking, if any, are further discussed. After the discussion is over and the standard of evaluation of Answer Scripts has been decided upon, the examiners disperse and complete the valuation of answer books according to a given time schedule.
21. This exercise alone is not enough to bring about uniformity of assessment since, in the process of valuation, the examiners tend to deviate from the standards laid down by Head Examiner and expected to be followed. The UPSC therefore, apply further checks to ensure uniformity in evaluation of answer scripts.rd or downward moderation according to the degree of leniency or strictness in marking. The awards given by the Head Examiner of these revalued 20 answer books are accepted as final. Check the complete Judgement. http://www.indiankanoon.org/doc/1889873/
Chopda ke case me justice alok singh ne kiya dhamaka!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWait for more info.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletesee deatils of above post
http://upscblog.com/2012/01/10/discussion-on-scaling-in-upsc/
चौथे सिविल सेवा परीक्षा मामले में रखा पक्ष
ReplyDeleteरांची त्न चतुर्थ सिविल सेवा परीक्षा पर रोक लगाने के लिए दायर याचिका पर बुधवार को झारखंड हाईकोर्ट में सुनवाई हुई। इस दौरान जेपीएससी की ओर से शपथ पत्र दायर कर याचिका में लगाए गए सभी आरोप खारिज कर दिए गए। इसमें कहा गया है कि सभी विषयों को समान करने के लिए स्केलिंग सिस्टम लागू है, ताकि किसी खास विषय के अभ्यर्थी को विशेष लाभ नहीं मिले। भोपाल (मध्यप्रदेश) में यह पद्धति काफी पहले से लागू है। इस पर याचिकाकर्ता मनोज कुमार व अन्य ने जवाब दायर करने के लिए समय मांगा। जस्टिस आलोक सिंह की अदालत ने आग्रह स्वीकार करते हुए सुनवाई तीन हफ्ते के लिए स्थगित कर दी। याचिका में चतुर्थ सिविल सेवा परीक्षा में अनियमितता बरतने का आरोप है
UPSC in an affidivit filed before Supreme court has accepted that it implements scaling system at preliminary examination level while statastical moderation method at mains level. There is no scaling system at final stage i.e. interview. Althogh UPSC claims that it follows stastical moderation at mains level but statastical moderation is nothing but an euphemism for scaling method. According to John Wilmut and Jennifer Tuson author of book,
ReplyDelete"statistical moderation of Teacher Assessments" elaborates that scaling is a component of statistical moderation. Thus it invalidates UPSC's argument that it doesnot folow system of scaling at mains level.
Statistical moderation or scaling system followed by UPSC is flawed. Noted statisticians, Natarajan and Gunakesan in their much recognised book, "Scaling Techniques" cautions that scaling techniques should only be introduced wherever circumstsnces permit. Thus according to them this technique is practicable only in a major examination covering more than 33,000 candidates. But UPSC has seem to have ignored this as it has implemented the system for mains examination where just 7000 to 8000 candidates appear. Thus the system doesnot follow the basic criterion require to adopt scaling system. This makes thae adoption of scaing system by UPSC erroneous.
Further UPSC in the affidivit accepts that it follows the system of randomising samples and takes 20 papers at random as samples to be applied to their scaling system so as to reduce inter examiner variation. But Natarajan and Gunakesan suggest that in order to implement scaling technique at least 25 papers and not 20 papers should be drawn. Thus from above two inconsistencies it appears that UPSC ignores even the basic requirement to implement scaling system. This puts a question mark over the efficacy and credibility of its scaling system.
http://tsaindia.blogspot.in/2010/10/scalingmoderation-system-of-upsc-is.html
4th pt ka answer key fir se hoga jari !!!
ReplyDeleteHighcourt ka adesh.
@annonymous,
ReplyDeletekya kah rahe ho bhai? give more details about the High court procedings and judgement.
case no. wps 7050/2012 (kishor kumar chopra vs state of jharkhand)ke case me Highcourt ka adesh. 4th pt ka answer key fir se hoga jari !!!
ReplyDeleteIt means again revised pt result will come. Oh God what's happenning?
ReplyDelete@Ranjan,Skumar,ajay choudhari
ReplyDeletekya ye authentic news hai ki high court ne aadesh diya hai ki PT ke answer key fir se zari kiya jaay? Iska matlab fir re-revised pt ka niklega?
@skumar
ReplyDeleteI have sent ur post of moderation done by UPSC to ajay chaudhary.. Thnx... It may be helpful for the case..
HERE TWO VERY MAJOR MISTAKE MUST be emphasised in court with other points
ReplyDelete1.SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW IS ILLEGAL PROCESS.
2.CLUBBING OF TWO PAPERS MARKs and thereafter COMBINED SCALED SCORE IS ERRONEOUS.
dear friends
ReplyDeleteaaj case no, wps 7050/12 ki sunbaaee justice alok sing ke court me huee.
alok sing ne kaha ki 2 weeks ke andar pt exam ka model ans. aur marks sheet jpsc jari kare.
model ans aur marks sheet jari hone ke baad kya hoga aaplog jante hai.
thanks
ajay choudhary
jpsc PT me bhi phans gaya aur mains+ interview (scaling) me bhi phans gaya. Ab kya hoga? jinka finally selection hua unka to heart attack ho jayega....mila hua job haath se nikal jayga, ye Jungal public service commission hai bhai.
ReplyDeletepass wale bhaiyo ke sath sympaty hai but ek bar issue settele hona jaruri hai.following issues me bhi JPSC mein jarur phasegi
ReplyDelete1.SCALING AFTER INTERVIEW IS ILLEGAL PROCESS.
2.CLUBBING OF TWO PAPERS MARKs and thereafter COMBINED SCALED SCORE IS ERRONEOUS
so finally judiciary is in action..though late..i was hoping from that very time when jpsc intentionally didnt released the pt key for the third time..i gave mains ..then interview and finally not selected ..i personaly belived that this time intention of jpsc was to take fair exam..and it tried very well..i am not finally selected and i belive i got poor marks in one paper and i accept my bad performance in that paper for me not being in list of selected candidates.but i also belive that jpsc in trying to be transparent and fair lost it altogether at that very point when it didnt released the final pt key.and justice was denied to all by hon jharkhand high court before mains and court allowed jpsc to conduct exam.i dnt regret for me not be in list of selected..may the best player win..but still I believe justice was denied during pt only..though i dnt belive that anything will happen but hope court will set some example and show jpsc some way how to take transparent ,fair and efficient exam.
ReplyDeleteGood decision by court though late one..
ReplyDeletemaja aa gaya balle balle pass ladkon ki to lag gayi oye behan ki.....
ReplyDeleteGood decision by court. Be ready for re-re-revised pt result. Final me failed fir se mains ki taiyari me jut jaye. Passed bhi padhai par dhyan de to behtar baki unki marji.
ReplyDeletesociology me hi to lagjayegi jpsc ki.. maja aa gagay bhai.. bahut dino baad achhi khabar mili hai..
ReplyDeletelaw mein bhi lagega..
ReplyDeleteab mains kaa bhi number dena parega
ReplyDeletewhy high court and jpsc, both are playing with students career? whom to blame destiny or time? don't know.
ReplyDeletephir khush ho gaye......jakar pls padhai karo...nahin to 5th jpsc me bhi aise baith kar khushi aur gum me phanse rahoge......
ReplyDeleteNo one is playing with your career except yourself... deserving student are getting and will keep getting their position...nothing is going to happen...foucs on your studies else...you will keep blaming others.
sach poochhiye to ab kuchh nahi hone wala hai kyonki ab bahut der ho chuki hai, ab to joining hi na kahi kara de government fir ham log kuchh bhi nahi kar payenge...
ReplyDeleteIss bhram me na rahe ki ab kuchh nahi ho sakta. Kal court me advocate general ki bolti band ho gai thi. Joining bhi hone ke ab chances kam hai. Ho bhi jay to court ke hammer ki chot se sari divar dhhah jaygi.
ReplyDeleteDer se hi sahi nyay jarur milega.
bhram me to ap ji rahen hain...abhi tak....padhani nahi karne ka naya bahana hai....pehli baat koyi injustice hui hi nahi hai...first time itna quick aur fair result hai...lekin jharkhand tumhare rahte hamesh late hi rahega...aur jahan tak court ke hammer ki baat hai...supreme court ne 2nd jpsc ka jo nyaya kiya hai...woh tumhare samne hai..phir bhi tumhari ankh nahi khulti...rote hi rahoge beta.....meri salah mano apne hammer ko apne sar pe maro....kuch screw tight ho jayega aur padhne me man lagega.
ReplyDeletefiles clear ho chuki hain....15 jan tak JAS ka joining call aa raha hai
ReplyDeleteOhho 2nd jpsc me anyay ho raha tha hame to malum hi nahi tha. Fat gai bechare ki!!!!
ReplyDeletewe will fight till last blood,we will succeed in our mission.jai ho high court.ab hi jum sab ki jong nahi hua hai.2nd walo ko sarkar ki maharanwani hai,usme bare hi vip ke sons aur dauther the.
ReplyDeleteAgar koi 2nd jpsc ka support kar raha hai to samazh sakte ho ki ye kis mentality ka hai. Bhai Dilip prasad, Gopal singh ko bhi jail se bahar nikal unke saath bhi anyay ho raha hai.
ReplyDelete2nd jpsc ka pahla candidate tha main, interview Gopal singh k board me tha, muzhse interview k end me 13 lac khud Gopal singh ne demand kiya tha aur kaha ki DSP pakka milega.
ReplyDelete(Anil)
haan anil ji.. u r rt.. mentality dekhiye in is baar ke paas ladkon ki ... wo 2nd jpsc ko justify kara rahe hain..isse andaja chalta hai ki ye kis tarah se paas hue honge is baar v..koi nhi 15 din me sab fir se mains ki taiyaari.. kai ek to revised pt ke result me v fail honge jo avi jpsc ke galat tarike ka use kar pass hokar ke itra rahe the aur ab in chutiy** ki fat rahi hai.. behen ke takke..
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ReplyDeleteaaj court me case no. wps 5860/11 aur wpc 2487/12 ki hearing justice alok sing ke court me huee.
jpsc es case ko dispose karne ke liye jor laga rahi thi.
justice alok sing ne kaha ki 5860 ka pray hai. pt exam cancel, esliye 2 week ke baad es case ki sunbaaee hogi.
es case me pt exam me garwari ka draft hai agar ye case 4/1/13 ko dispose huaa matlab pt cancel.
aur pt cancel matlab mains,interview and final 219 bhi gaya.
thanks
aaplog case no. wps 7441/12 ka jawab mujhe dena hai usme help kare
7441 ka date hai 9/1/13.
ajay choudhary
ajay ji my point of contention is first of all if jpsc can give pt answer key for two time then ..why it can not give it for third time ..if it want to be tranparent ..aur agar do baar diya hai to tesri baar dene mein kya aapati hai..it itself shows its malafide intention.i m from law subject and had 89 correct answer ..but finally on basis of 2nd key i got 72 ..it means 3rd key jo jpsc ne nahi diya ..usme bhi garbari hoga..
ReplyDeleteab to jpsc ki ud gai hai neend, bhai log
ReplyDelete@kumar,
ReplyDeleteBilkul ho sakta hai ki answer key hi galti se bhari padi ho aur ussi basis par PT ka result nikla ho, maine to interview bhi diya tha. sab k sath justice hona chahiye.
aur ye bhi ho sakta hai ki jpsc pt key mein bilkul sahi bhi ho..
ReplyDeleteYaar aap log mudde ki baat kare,AJAY JI After interview SCALING GALAT HAI iss mudde ko jarur uthaye, two papers ka marks clubbing kar Combined scaling galat hai.
ReplyDeleteAnt me yahi hoga ki jpsc ko mains k raw marks+interview k marks ko add karke fir se final result nikalna pade. ye to pakka hai ki court is result ko cancel karega.
ReplyDeletesatya pareshan ho sakta hai par parajit nahi.
ReplyDeletebhai log...2nd jpsc mein CBI ki status report aur court ki proceeding par prakaash dalane ki bhi kripa karen...merry christmas to all...
ReplyDelete2nd jpsc se related supreme court ka judgement 2week me aayega uske turant baad high court me CBI ki case shuru hogi.
ReplyDeleteRanchi, Dec, 18: Jharkhand Public Service Commission (JPSC) 4th Civil Services result once again came under controversy as the candidates who miss the final tally filed the writ petition against result in Jharkhand High court.
ReplyDeleteAggrieved candidates had filed two WPS 7050/2012 in the court of Justice Alok Singh which is scheduled for hearing on December 20.Another WPS 8377/2012 was also filed in the court whose date is yet to be given.
Apart from the above case several other cases related to the PT examination are also under progress but due to heavy load of cases in the court the procedure is very slow.
At the same time JPSC is also planning to publish the notification for the 5th civil services examination in coming week.
The action of JPSC to not extend single vacancy in the 4th civil service examination despite of transport department request to appoint RTO itself suggest that JPSC has some doubt regarding the fate of 4th JPSC recruitment drive which was under the controversy since its notification as several cases are filed in Jharkhand High Court.
Given the condition JPSC is planning to conduct 5th Civil Service examination carefully to tame any controversy one can expect that commission will play fair after learning from its previous exercise.
source-http://www.polyeyes.com/Article/Cases-filed-against-4th-Civil-Service-Result,-JPSC-looking-for-5th-Civil-Service-Examination
4th aur 5th ka combined pt le le.. jyada sahi rahega...
ReplyDeleteab ragarayenge ye pass hone wale sale.. badi-badi baatein karte the ....
ReplyDeleteRanchi, Dec, 20: Jharkhand Public Service Commission (JPSC) seems to have trapped in its own web as Jharkhand High Court directs the commission to release the marks sheet and model answer key for the candidates who appeared in the 4th Civil services preliminary Examination in two weeks.
ReplyDeleteJustice Alok Singh while hearing the WPS 7050/12 directed the JPSC to do so, earlier candidates alleged JPSC for conducting the mains examination based on the wrong answer key.
JPSC has already finalized the recruitment process and sent their recommendation to the government.
Its final result had also challenged by the group of student who alleged about the implementation of faulty scaling system.
HUMBLE APPEAL-
ReplyDeleteAll the candidate and those just person who thinks injustice has been done to those deserving candidate meet moharabadi maidan at 11 am tomorrow for the shake of justice.
Saare paas wale court k judgement k baad iss blog se gayab hi ho gaye.
ReplyDeleteC.B.I., मेद्या घोटालें के कुछ केसों में अपनी Status Report झारखड हार्इ कोर्ट में सौंप चुकी हैं लेकिन यें सारी रिपोर्ट सील है अभी तक कोर्ट ने इन्हें देखा नही हैं क्योकि 2nd jpsc के सभी candidate C.B.I. जॉच बंद कराने के लिए सुप्रीम कोर्ट चले गए है और उनके मामलें की सुनवार्इ जनवरी मे होगी।
ReplyDeleteWe will get the justice finally and those who hv passed using vagary of jpsc will ultimately give way for really talented students.... baNDE MAATRAM..
ReplyDeleteHon'ble high courts order
ReplyDeleteIN THE HIGH COURT OF JHARKHAND AT RANCHI
W.P.(S) No. 7050 of 2012
Kishor Kumar Chopra ..... Petitioner
Versus
1. The State of Jharkhand through the Principal Secretary
2. The Jharkhand Public Service Commission, Ranchi 3. The Secretary, Jharkhand Public Service Commission, Ranchi …. Respondents
CORAM: HON’BLE MR. JUSTICE ALOK SINGH
For the Petitioner : Mr. Manoj Tandon, Advocate For the Respondent Nos.2 & 3 : Mr. Anil Kumar Sinha, Sr. Advocate
Mr. Sanjay Piprawal, Advocate
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02 /20.12.2012 Present writ petition has been filed seeking following relief:-
“To direct the Jharkhand Public Service Commission
(Respondents No.2 and 3) to publish the model answers and
make available the mark sheets of the candidates pursuant to
result of preliminary tests (P.T.) for which the result was
published finally on 3/2/2012 in respect of 4th Combined Civil
Services Preliminary Examination, conducted by Respondents 2
and 3.”
Mr. Sinha, learned senior Advocate as well as Mr. Sanjay Piprawal,
learned counsel appearing for the Respondent Nos.2 and 3, on the instruction
of Respondent Nos.2 and 3, submits that model answers and marks obtained
by the candidates in the preliminary test of 4th Combined Civil Services
Preliminary Examination, pursuant to Advertisement No.07 of 2010 shall be
made available on the Web site/Net within two weeks positively.
Mr. Tandon, learned counsel for the petitioner submits that let the
present writ petition be disposed of in the light of the statement made by
learned counsel for the Respondents. Order accordingly.
(Alok Singh, J.)
R.
tab tak hum logon ko humme se pratyek ko atleast ek roll no aisa pata kar ke dena parega jimka inter\view me 200 marks milne ke baad v selection nahi hota.... Bahut se SC ST ke ladke jinka final list me roll no nahi hai but interview ke liye tha, hamme se pratyek ladke ko ek roll no aisa pakad kar arbitrary DOB lekar try karna chahiye .. Aur jpsc ke marks wale site par roll no aur different DOB daalkar dekhna chahiye..thoda mehnat ka kaam hai.. but agar hamme se ek v ek roll no ke liye kar deta hai to 100 aise ladske hamein mil jayenge.. 50 to already mil hi gaye hain.. un 50 ka roll no jo upar ajay ne diya hai use include nahi karna hai search mein.. sab pls. ek roll no select karein aur yahan par post karein jab khali baithen ho to try karein with different DOB.. at most 1000 retry karna parega. but will help in d case tremedously...
ReplyDeletefew such roll nos can be -7100979,7100998,7101013...
ReplyDeleteI will give such more roll nos which can be one of those having rank more than 450..
BC 2 category me main qualify ladko ke bhi marks me more than 200ka difference hai.out of 44 me atleast 20 students ka marks difference 200 hai.TRY kare frnds.
ReplyDeleteBC 1 me bhi bahut difference en cat me check kare.