In the mean time JPSC has sought the advice from the government to
take a final call amid mounting pressure over them.
According to sources Chief Minister Arjun Munda is of the opinion that
either the examination should be cancelled or additional result will be
declared so that aspirants from Jharkhand should get a chance.
As per the published result 2,194 candidates have been declared pass
against 219 posts. The students complained that in the examination the JPSC not
only adopted unfair scaling system in evaluation of paper.
Out of the total number 850 candidates declared pass are from general
category, whereas 690 from ST, 160 from SC, 150 from BC II and 344 from BC I
categories. 110 women candidates have also cleared the JPSC 4th PT examination.
Now ball is in the government court and
decision of the government will be final one sources said.
Source: Goindocal.com
Pankaj sir we are quite thankful to you that the reliable information we have seen from this site.
ReplyDeleteThere are several blogs spreading rumours but this is the most reliable site where we have seen fair and unbiased openion.
We can expect further good things from you..
Thanks
yeah CM kai pass koi kaam nahi hai kaya jo jpsc kai matter mai interfare karaygai. first time exam fair hua hai. jo fail hua hai unko problem ho rahi hai..result to bilkul tik hai legally.
ReplyDeleteApka lottery lag gaya hai so...
ReplyDeleteaap bol rahe hoo...
ap keon dar rahe hoo agar confidence hai to....
aap reexam me v paas ho jaoge,,,,
agar matter court me gaya na to only cancellation will be the verdict...
Bilaspur high court,Allahabad High court and Bhopal High court past me ye karnama kar chuka hai....
so get ready dear
Court mai hi settle kare.To aap log court. aaise road pe beekh kuyn maang rahe hai.
ReplyDeleteCourt jaie. yu beekh na maange. aacha nahi lagta hai. legally result bulkul dik hai..
ReplyDeleteBaat daar ki nahi time ka hai.. kuyn safal student ka time aap log waste kar rahe hai. himachal psc ko dai kai waha sirf 400 result aata hai pt ka. aur student accept karte hai. yu judh mudh ka roate nahi hai. exam fair hai legal hai.
ReplyDeleteJPSC is technically right in the result declaration however as far as legality of the result amid massive repetition of from the optional question is concern it can be challenged in High court.
ReplyDeleteBecause repetition has given additional advantage to the students who is preparing for UPSC so it was not a level playing field.
Jharkhand don't ask good number of local question in examination so it became more disadvantageous for the regional student.
Such type of condition of indecision is not good for passed as well failed candidate,but state PCS particularly JPSC and BPSC works like this.
Let see what happens it will depend upon the move of the failed candidate.
Pankaj ji 3 subject mai upsc kai question repeat hua hai geo soci padm . agar in subject mai student ko faida hua hoga to jarur negative scaling hue hogi in subject. agar en 3 subject mai positive scailing hua hoga to saaf hai. yeah 3 paper tough the ulta yeah 3 subject kai ne suffer kiya.. inka nahi hua wo judh mudh ka haala kar rahe hai..
ReplyDeleteUltimately sir 219 log akhir mai kush honge. baki sab yeah kahe ge corruption hua fair nahi tha. aaph sab ko kush nahi kar sakte..jada result daina unke liyeah aanyay hai jo 10000 kai baad mai bhi select nahi paygai pt mai. to phir PT laynai ka fayda kaya.. Jo rule Notification kai time tha unko respect karna chahei yeah.ly sir 219 log akhir mai kush honge. baki sab yeah kahe ge corruption hua fair nahi tha. aaph sab ko kush nahi kar sakte..jada result daina unke liyeah aanyay hai jo 10000 kai baad mai bhi select nahi paygai pt mai. to phir PT laynai ka fayda kaya.. Jo rule Notification kai time tha unko respect karna chahei yeah.
ReplyDeleteSorry Friend I don't want to initiate an unnecessary discussion but as per my information Geography,Sociology,and Public Administration optional has shown positive scaling, meaning the obtained marks has increased during the scaling.
ReplyDeleteIt clearly states that the student who gone through UPSC question has got advantage and the aspirant who don't have exposure to such question are at week wicket in above subject so they have hardly met with them.
The 10 times of result(Nothing wrong in this technically)has made their chance to clear the PT a remote possibility.
The information has been released by the Pioneer News paper(Ranchi Edition) 2 month back.
This is also available on this blog and News portal...WWW.goindocal.com
You can search it vis search box of the Portal while typing JPSC as the search word.
Pls refer to my earlier post, I am rewritting it:
ReplyDeleteThe issue is not over the difficulty level of the question paper but direct copy paste from one single previous exam and its repurcussion on increasing the scope of corruption. Earlier, commission used to manipulate the result after the exam was held attracting lot of criticism but now they need simply to give a buzz to the intended benificary about the source of questions before the exam. This means now also the result will be rewarded to the kins of politicians and elites but in new style while claiming the fairness and transparency of the examination procedure. A single phone call to the benificiary is sufficient to get them without any scope of being caught. This is safest method to practice corruption and nepotism. This is nothing but the trick to kill the snake without breaking the stick.
So the jpsc can't be attacked on the argument of 10times or exclusion of resident but procedure of question setting. And only justice is the cancellation of the exam. This is the logic on which the suggestion of Ratikant Jha to cancell the exam is based upon.
Thank You
Its true that soc Geo PA are in positive scaling.obtaining 200 marks, ST candidate passed in GEN CATEGORY.Same case in GEO & PA.
ReplyDeletePositive scaling means these three paper were tough in comparison to others. these three paper were tough in comparison to others.
ReplyDeleteya .... But for them who was not gone through the previous paper of UPSC papers,those who gone through finds it as cake walk....
ReplyDeleteHere comes the story of advantage for them....
Come on pankaj , extraordinarily u r favouring others.. jpsc paper was not a cake walk. positive scaling simply means paper was tough whether u like it or not..moreover its prerrogative of jpsc to set any question. as a candidate u must be prepared for anything.. trust me paper was tough.g others.. jpsc paper was not a cake walk. positive scaling simply means paper was tough whether u like it or not..moreover its prerrogative of jpsc to set any question. as a candidate u must be prepared for anything.. trust me paper was tough.
ReplyDeleteThose who didnt get selected knew that they didnt got any chance to stand in a court thats why d r making so much noise. BTW us open final is getting interesting.
ReplyDeleteSorry you are not taking comments with right spirit.....
ReplyDeletePankaj Sir is Absolutely right and clear.....
I know several aspirant personally belongs to sociology and geography who were wondering after the paper.they are claiming that they have done 98+ in optional.
At the same time I met the people crying in Geography hardly manage to do 55 ..
it is not feasible to take re-exam.......it will take time and we know very well already JPSC is going behind the schedule since establishment of jharkhand.my apeal is that try to convince both the group,jpsc & goventment to come out with midway solution.........
ReplyDeleteIf u remind past story we find that almost 500 recruitment of administrative officer were carried out through commission (up to 3rd JPSC) since establishment of Jharkhand 2000, however among these 70-80% recruitments were pending with controversy, it indicates may be 20-30% recruitments were genuine or not.
ReplyDeleteIf commission were taken exam in every consecutive year till now recruitments would be more than two thousand considering 200 vacancies of administrative officer /year. (we are already eight year backlog if we consider year 2011 also).in same time civil services aspirants are increasing exponentially resulting un employment and this is the area of concern, that we have to focus and come up with suitable solution…….either increase a result such way that nobody can question over it........i am not saying that publish 15000 results..it is not desirable...as we know it takes time for correction of mains copy as like earlier exam.........and it also create controversy.........
This is shear waste of time of succesful students.
ReplyDeleteTime will be consumed for the sake of justice.
ReplyDeleteI accept the legality of 10% result and discretion of PSC over difficulty level of question.
But I don't ascribe to the procedure that more than 50% of difficult and result deciding question would be selected from one single source (whatever it may be). JPSC is notorious of manipulation of results. Such a procedure of setting the questions increases the possibility of leakage of question papers to intended beneficiary on just a phone call. And worst of it, no one will be held accountable for that because the evaluation and other criterion has been duly followed.This is the core argument behind the recommendation of cancellation of the exam by Ratikant Jha.
It's not the question of saving the valuable time for few students who have passed this time including me. But the JUSTICE and Streamlining the system which is sustainable and fair. Time is the cost which we should afford for the larger good of our coming generation.
Thank YOu
If passed students will not take any stand then forget about taking mains. you have to take a side either u want to give mains or u want to give pt. dont show ur wisdom. either u r with u or against us. either u want to give mains or not. dont talk bullshit.
ReplyDeleteBahut raida aap log faila chukai hai. ab aur na failay. jab jpsc fair karne ki kosish kar raha hai aap logo say deikha nahi ja raha. aap kaya chahte hai 10000 result aaiye aur aahai log paisa le kai commission pahuch jaye selection kai liyeah. .
ReplyDeleteYes there should realize the reader to RSS my feed to RSS commentary, quite simply
ReplyDeletePankaj kumar;
ReplyDeleteI want to ask you one simple question. If all questions are framed from one single book. Say Lakshmikant's one in case of Pub Ad. Will you say that exam must be cancelled because those who read the book are in beneficiary position. The same arguement applies to UPSC questions being repeated. I am a lawyer; and I can bet that High Court will not interfere with exams on this ground.
Ajay:
ReplyDeleteYou can better understand....what should be done in this case.
I think you are wise enough to make a rational opinion.
I am from media world so cant do trial here.
Every body has right to think and express but what I feel the rational thought will come from the people who is not associated with the examination.
Lawyer Ajay jis tarah murder mystry hoti hai usi tarah yah question ka courption mystry hai.Is process me question seter sirf upsc 2009 bolega aur question out!!!!!!!!.Aur aisa huwa hai.Bahut sare logon ko yah pata tha.Aap set banakar gaye honge.agar jpsc ko upsc ka question hi dena tha to 20set se 5 question diya ja sakta tha. jo sirf parhne wale hi kar pate.
ReplyDelete@ you are absolutely right pankaj sir
ReplyDeleteI appreciate your effort...
are you working with goindocal.com
Mr Ratikant Jha ‘s reccomendation has now no more validity.
ReplyDeleteHe had reccomended but competent authority not accepted his reccomendation and proceeded for result ,so on the basis of his reccomendation you are hoping some positive development then you are absolutely day dreaming.
Nothing will happen on his reccomendation . You must realise hard truth .
Reply @anonymous: Pls respond to my argument favoring cancelling the exam. I would not entertain mere emotive pressures. We need candidates to write mains who are logical and have a sense of justice and not divisive talking of either with me or against me. I want to ask whom are you fighting with and is this attitude you would bring to the administration?????
ReplyDeleteReply@Ajay: Can't you feel the difference between the question borrwoed from a question set of 5pages consisting 120 questions and question from a text book Laxmikant consisting of 500pages of highly condensed study material exctracted from 15 original text books of public administration and another 400 pages of MCQs.
How can you claim the rationality of your above analogy? I am not a lawyer but doubt that court will entertain your analogy.
Reply @ Pankaj: Friend, How can the people outside the context take rational decisions? Decision making is rational when exercised by by the real stakeholder not external. External can give you a tinge of justice that's it.
I still think We can decide rationally the right course of action through proper and constructive debate. We need to come out of narrow individual interest and think in terms of larger good.
@ Anikesh: Recommedations validity does not end when your force your authority on your subordinate. Validity is backed by logic. THis is the reason that after approx 1 month of result the so called competent authority is not able to decide wether to cancle the exam or increase the result. Now JPSC has invited politicans to interfere. It's a challenge on their competence.
If anything happens on this recommendation or not is the matter of part of administrative and political process of bargaining and concessions.I am simply debating its logic and still this hold valid.
Mr lawyer if u don't know the history of jpsc then u should keep shut. In 1st jpsc 40 questions in his opt were asked from agnihotri guide and exam was cancelled.
ReplyDeleteYah confirmed news hai ki jpsc agey nahi badhegi . Jpsc gov ya court ke interfere karne ka intjar kar rahi hai.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL
Mr shankar vidyarti u r most undeserving candidate of 4th jpsc exam. even u r not a candidate only a middlemen. date of 4th jpsc exam. even u r not a candidate only a middlemen.
ReplyDelete@Kumar Gautam:
ReplyDeleteI am sorry to say that you haven't understand my point.
What I mean to say that that aspirant who got Green card for mains wont like more result because it will create potential competition for them and reduce their probability to get through in final list.
The student who are unfortunate they don't have any reason to support the result because JPSC has Committed several mistake in the entire examination process i.e from making papers to publishing result and the background of commission also supports it.
I mean to say rational people will be those who understand the mode of working of commission's and aware of examination process as well.
I think I have made my point Clear.
i hope that jpsc will start sending mains form very soon n that will end all negative propaganda against it.I can understand that those who failed are not able to digest it. it happens. that will end all negative propaganda against it.I can understand that those who failed are not able to digest it. it happens.
ReplyDeleteDefinitely...
ReplyDeleteDelaying in release of mains form also creating doubt among the successful student thy are suffering most from this uncertainly.
There is something is cooking in JPSC,they are not sure what to do.
what i feel commission is looking some direction from Court,because any case dissatisfied aspirants will move to court.
Commission cant satisfy everybody.
Let see what happens.....
Poor Governance .....Nothing else
Poor Governance .....Nothing else
ReplyDeleteCompletely Agreed.
But this has become fait accompli for Jharkhand people not only with JPSC but in every sphere.
Hello Pankaj ji...Mitra...I had completely understood your point.
ReplyDeleteIT is for the green card people only, I stated that they (including me)must come out of narrow and individual interest and work for the larger good. They should acknowledge the fact that the procedure of question making is flawed and dubious one and it may potentially manipulate the result doing injustice for many.
Further those who could not qualify the PT will have to rationally argue as they can't fight over number of results and prerogative of commission to set difficult questions.
Still I hold that only students, BPSC and govt can decide the fate of result because of two reasons:
1. For wider acceptance of the Result.
2. There is no any other rational entity except judiciary who can give the impartial and legitimate judgement.
Actually this is the essence of decentralized and democratic decision making when there are conflicting interest.The conflict resolution theories across the globe favor the acceptance criterion for rational and sustainable decision making. Procedurally the theory supports the bilateral negotiations and compromise though under a neutral observer. The main role is played by the affected parties themselves and neutral entity is used merely as a soft communication channel to express disagreements in indirect and moderate manner.
So we don't have any rational body for compromise. Only external body is judiciary where the acceptance criterion is not required because the justice itself is the ultimate criterion for legally and compulsory binding order.
Above all, Intention of my above emphasis is to use this forum to reach a conclusion through constructive debate. Hardly matter whether our opinion matches with the outcome of JPSC deliberations or not. At least we should participate in inculcating the democratic mode of conflict resolution among ourselves which is the requirement of administrative aptitude and indicator of our progressive and argumentative society.
Thank You.
@Kumar Gautam
ReplyDeleteI appreciate your thought...
Thanks for your wonderfully crafted opinion it will help other to understand the matter ...
The demand of cancellation of exam on the basis of repetation of question is totally absurd and illogical at this moment.Why they are demanding cancellation of exam only afterdeclaration of result? why not made demand soon after exam?Those have failed making irrational demands and confusing to passed candidates.I think so called leaders are middleman of coaching institutes and oragnising protest and dharna.If their demand is correct then they should move in court.
ReplyDeleteno matter what any one demands,sokution must warranted soon time is runing out
ReplyDeleteJPSC neither sending for nor releasing more result no clue yet...
one month is gone no further development......
One should put PIL soon on this...
And if problem is with Socio and Pun Ad then only these exams must be cancelled and reconducted. Why for all subjects?
ReplyDeleteno more result is going to come.its totally unwarranted. for d first time in its history jpsc is working honestly. let them do thr job.
ReplyDeleteSocio, Pub Ad and Geography papers should be cancelled not the whole exam
ReplyDeleteCommission should not take even 1 extra student. Even in extreme case; it should cancel Socio, Pub Ad and Geography papers and should take their candidates afresh.
ReplyDelete.
There is no need to have a re-exam for GS also as GS is already settled. The commission may do the work in 2 weeks if it works with efficiency. I feel the new charman is capable enough.
Yes...this is the result of constructive debate...I completely agree with view of anonymous friend arguing the reexamination of only Sociology, PUb Ad and Geography followed by proper scaling to bring parity in difficulty level.
ReplyDeleteReply @demand of cancellation post result: The demand was made immediately after the exam by certain sections of students and the JPSC higher officials. Even JPSC was bewildering in confusion.
Ideally, the massive protest for cancellation should have been launched that time only. For this I salute your vision.
But in Practice (because of self centric metaphysics of human being), Massive Demand for justice is made when there are numerous victim. This also happens when larger self realize the potential threat. If you are minority in opinion your voice will not be heeded. This is the drawback of democracy and rational for accommodation of democratic dissent.
There are numerious legislations in practice which is potentially hazardous but one raise the voice against after it post victimization. For example, Realization of hazards of nuclear power plant getting massive voice even though there were certain section (environmentally) protesting since the inception of nuclear energy. Not only this the potential threat of access to nuke by terrrorist is a recent concern and this has led to the question mark on the very concept of utility of nuclear energy for whole humanity.
Indeed, The concern of JPSC flawed procedure was there after the exination but the minority opinion (including that of Ratikant Jha) was ignored but this demand revived and attracted wider expression after colossal victimization post result. Now the same people who opposed this view are now considering this option seriously and the society is consciously debating it.
Thank You.
Support subham's call. But the controversy will reivive when passed students will be out. In that situation, there is scope to increase the seats to 13% as per UPSC norms.
ReplyDeleteFRIENDS,
ReplyDeleteThe greatest and most urgent need of the time is what asked by Amit Anand, Shubham, Pankaj and others:
JPSC Should DECIDE the matter ASAP. Delay is greatest Injustice.
Really POOR GOVERNANCE.
How any one can say...
ReplyDeleteActually JPSC has mailed the Mains form as per some comments ,many people claiming that Commission has mailed him the Form and last date of submitting the form is oct-10 if they are right then no chance of result increase by JPSC .
If court will intervene then it can altered otherwise no chance for now.
May be its true. But I have not received the form as of Now.
ReplyDeleteI am fully relying on the authenticity of the information provided by this site. I request our anchor PANKAJ and team to clarify and share the truth on this.
Thank You
All this protest against result shows that job aspirants of Jharkhand are FOOLS ,there was protest against JPSC pt result which can give job to around 200 students AND no one is protesting against delay of recruitment to be done by Jharkhand SSC which can give 1 Lakh jobs in which many are good posts
ReplyDeleteRequest to all successful candidates plz dont disclose ur marks otherwise failed student could make mountain of mole.
ReplyDeleteAnd if problem is with Socio and Pun Ad then only these exams must be cancelled and reconducted. Why for all subjects?
ReplyDeleteCourt jaie. yu beekh na maange. aacha nahi lagta hai. legally result bulkul dik hai..
ReplyDelete@Kumar Gautam I appreciate your thought... Thanks for your wonderfully crafted opinion it will help other to understand the matter ...
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